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Old Jun 23, 2016 | 02:36 PM
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What I find interesting is that a few years ago there was a yellow Z06 on some Classics that was stetching the tire more than ***** and he got nothing but praises lol I think only one person told him the tires were too narrow lol

Crazy bunch of haters
Everyone called me stupid a year or two back for doing an extremely light stretch. I made a new thread when they were mounted and everyone loved the look, go figure.
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Old Jun 23, 2016 | 02:39 PM
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why have tire stretch on a blown car? I personally don't like the look, but its not my car, Just wondering why you would buy a performance car with a blower and more HP and not want to get the power to the ground?
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Old Jun 23, 2016 | 02:44 PM
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You know I'm just keeeding... Looking forward to seeing them on the car, I think they'll look great!

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Old Jun 23, 2016 | 05:52 PM
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Actually, I'll go ahead and comment. What offset are you running on these wheels? I think your problems are going to be on the inside of the fender, not the outside. My 12s on 305s have a slight poke, but they are also extremely close to the inner fender. I've never rubbed, but I'm not sure where the extra 1/2" of wheel will go, depending on your offset. It may work, but it's gonna be close.
I don't know the offsets , but what I did was focus more on the backspacing

The lips will poke out a bit, that's not my concern, its just how they clear on the inner wells

From my calculations I know its gonna be very close , but it should work

Ill post up soon with results

Originally Posted by chassed
What I find interesting is that a few years ago there was a yellow Z06 on some Classics that was stetching the tire more than ***** and he got nothing but praises lol I think only one person told him the tires were too narrow lol

Crazy bunch of haters
lol nothing new there

I see guys doing that kind of flip flopping all the time

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why have tire stretch on a blown car? I personally don't like the look, but its not my car, Just wondering why you would buy a performance car with a blower and more HP and not want to get the power to the ground?
sometimes you just have to work with what you have

I pieced together these wheels on a shoe-string budget , I didn't want to go spend a few thousand on a new set

The stock 295's have been fine for me so far, they grip fairly well and im not into racing or high speed stunting anyways , so these 295's should work just fine for my needs

If I can pull this off ill be happy as I got the stretched aggressive look paired with a reasonably meaty tire ....its the best of both worlds
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Old Jun 23, 2016 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 1Willy1
I don't know the offsets , but what I did was focus more on the backspacing
backspacing and offset are the same thing just different ways of measuring.

my c6 z06 wheels are 19x12 +59mm offset. this translates into 8.82" backspacing. i had a slight rub with the 325/30-19 tire. so i added a 4mm or 1/8" (.125") spacer. no more rubbing.

now my tire/rim sticks out a good 1/2". so if you have the same backspacing, you will end up sticking out 1.5" past the fender. here is pic of mine.

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Old Jun 23, 2016 | 09:41 PM
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this picture is when i had 285/35-19 on them.



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Originally Posted by 1Willy1


sometimes you just have to work with what you have

I pieced together these wheels on a shoe-string budget , I didn't want to go spend a few thousand on a new set

The stock 295's have been fine for me so far, they grip fairly well and im not into racing or high speed stunting anyways , so these 295's should work just fine for my needs

If I can pull this off ill be happy as I got the stretched aggressive look paired with a reasonably meaty tire ....its the best of both worlds

I get that, to be clear I wasn't hating on it just not my style. You thought about going to wide fenders or doing a mini tub?
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Old Jun 23, 2016 | 11:13 PM
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I love when the tire tucks in to the well and the wheel is flush with the fender. Plus I think stretched tires handle better. The stretch eliminates sidewalk flex and makes the car feel more responsive.
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Old Jun 24, 2016 | 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by mrr23
backspacing and offset are the same thing just different ways of measuring.

my c6 z06 wheels are 19x12 +59mm offset. this translates into 8.82" backspacing. i had a slight rub with the 325/30-19 tire. so i added a 4mm or 1/8" (.125") spacer. no more rubbing.

now my tire/rim sticks out a good 1/2". so if you have the same backspacing, you will end up sticking out 1.5" past the fender. here is pic of mine.

Thanks for the info

My backspacing is somewhere around 8.5 , so its close but I think it will work

Ill have installed pics tomorrow hopefully
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I get that, to be clear I wasn't hating on it just not my style. You thought about going to wide fenders or doing a mini tub?
I had those lovely 19x14's with the deep dish, but I didn't wanna butcher the Z

I would of considered buying a set of flared fenders but with the metallic silver it will never match properly and will end up pissing me off everytime I look at it

For this year ill be happy just running a nice set of wheels and enjoying the summer...throughout the winter months who knows, I tend to get bored and come up with some crazy ideas lol

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I love when the tire tucks in to the well and the wheel is flush with the fender. Plus I think stretched tires handle better. The stretch eliminates sidewalk flex and makes the car feel more responsive.
That's one of the arguments ive heard in various forums, might have some truth too it since a lot of the drifters run stretched set ups for just that reason

For me its more about having an aggressive look, I love when the wheels are so agreesive they barely fit, only problem is once these are installed ill be forced to lower the car again...... and im not going to do what I did last time on the stock suspension...so theres another $1500 on coilovers
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Old Jun 24, 2016 | 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 73Corvette

You know I'm just keeeding... Looking forward to seeing them on the car, I think they'll look great!
lol no worries man , thanks
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Old Jun 24, 2016 | 09:09 AM
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I can not stand when tire tread sticks out past the fender like in the pic in post 25. We are not driving mud trucks the tire tread belongs on the inside of the fender. But with the proper sized tire with a little stretch it would look great.
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Old Jun 24, 2016 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 1Willy1

That's one of the arguments ive heard in various forums, might have some truth too it since a lot of the drifters run stretched set ups for just that reason
If this were true, you'd see actual race cars, not demonstration cars (drifters) with this setup. Drift cars aren't made to "handle" or to go quickly around a track.

I'm all for being different and doing what you want for your own reasons, but this logic is flawed.
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Old Jun 24, 2016 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Jon B.
If this were true, you'd see actual race cars, not demonstration cars (drifters) with this setup. Drift cars aren't made to "handle" or to go quickly around a track.

I'm all for being different and doing what you want for your own reasons, but this logic is flawed.
Lots of German cars use narrow-ish tires for the wheel widths. BMW uses 255/35s on 9.5" wide wheels on the E46 M3, Porsche uses 305/30s on 12" wide wheels on the 997 GT3 and I'm sure there are many other examples. While these tires aren't stretched, they definitely aren't bulging off the wheel. For some reason, people on this site would think 285s and 335s are the "right sizes" for those wheel widths. I'm not saying anybody is wrong, but if it's used on cars that are meant to handle well from the factory, then there is probably some truth to it.
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Old Jun 24, 2016 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Jon B.
If this were true, you'd see actual race cars, not demonstration cars (drifters) with this setup. Drift cars aren't made to "handle" or to go quickly around a track.

I'm all for being different and doing what you want for your own reasons, but this logic is flawed.
That statement just shows truly how little you know about automotive performance
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Old Jun 24, 2016 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by v8srfun
That statement just shows truly how little you know about automotive performance
Or, that I had an opinion you disagree with. But way to call my knowledge of motorsport into question.
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Old Jun 24, 2016 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Black 02
Lots of German cars use narrow-ish tires for the wheel widths. BMW uses 255/35s on 9.5" wide wheels on the E46 M3, Porsche uses 305/30s on 12" wide wheels on the 997 GT3 and I'm sure there are many other examples. While these tires aren't stretched, they definitely aren't bulging off the wheel. For some reason, people on this site would think 285s and 335s are the "right sizes" for those wheel widths. I'm not saying anybody is wrong, but if it's used on cars that are meant to handle well from the factory, then there is probably some truth to it.
There is a distinct difference between doing this like the original picture with the lip of the wheel exposed, and utilizing the available space for an optimum contact patch. I get your argument though.
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Old Jun 24, 2016 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Jon B.
There is a distinct difference between doing this like the original picture with the lip of the wheel exposed, and utilizing the available space for an optimum contact patch. I get your argument though.
Yeah, there is definitely a point where it becomes "too much" and is no longer beneficial. Way too much stretch is a bad thing, such as when you see a 225 on a 10-11" wide wheel. A lot of people here seem to be narrow minded and can't tell the difference between acceptable and extreme tire stretch, yet feel the need to comment with photos of imports whenever they see the term.
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well the good news is it fits

Im clearing the inner wheel well by like a 1/8th's of an inch , but so far theres no rubbing, been on it all day on all kinds of roads and speeds.

The bad news is im exactly where I didn't want to end up ...with massive amounts of wheel gap that only a massive drop can fix

Does anyone know how to remove/cut the bump stops in the suspension?
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Old Jun 24, 2016 | 11:32 PM
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I'm just telling you what happened with our car... FE1 base suspension...
I put on C6 Z06 shocks and lowered the car about 1"....
We have some of the worst roads in the entire country and I have had NO issue with bottoming out the suspension... loaded with travel luggage, the wife and I both in the car and I weigh about 240 ish... you can see wheel gap in this pic pretty good...
They look nice from the rear lets see the side view... we know you have excessive wheel gap I just can't wait to see how they look...



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Old Jun 25, 2016 | 01:06 AM
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I'm also on board, post up more pictures its good when people start being different. It's sort my style but most folks it isnt, My advice is drive safe and dare to be different.
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