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Its fact. Corvette probably has the same number of owners doing the same thing.
I know 3 Porsche owners personally, one races his or tracks it (2016 911 Carrera 2), the others just ride around in them. Enthusiasts are a small number of any car segment. Check out a cars and coffee and see how many actually track their cars.
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Its fact. Corvette probably has the same number of owners doing the same thing.
I know 3 Porsche owners personally, one races his or tracks it (2016 911 Carrera 2), the others just ride around in them. Enthusiasts are a small number of any car segment. Check out a cars and coffee and see how many actually track their cars.
Find 10 Porsche owners and see for yourself, very few of these guys are into tracking their cars, no different than Corvette, Viper or BMW guys.
Its fairly easy to look at a car and determine if its tracked or tracked frequently.
Brakes, rotors and tires can be swapped out after a track day, wheel well liners arent.
Find 10 Porsche owners and see for yourself, very few of these guys are into tracking their cars, no different than Corvette, Viper or BMW guys.
Its fairly easy to look at a car and determine if its tracked or tracked frequently.
Brakes, rotors and tires can be swapped out after a track day, wheel well liners arent.
I said the owners would rather be out driving a country road with curves over trying to drag race people on the street. You've somehow twisted that into acting like I was claiming all owners track their cars at high performance driving type events. If you ask 10 Porsche owners if they're interested in drag racing Corvettes, I think you'd be surprised at how many have zero interest. Maybe the turbo guys that are tuned, but others would much rather enjoy their car by doing the things they were made for, which isn't driving in a straight line as fast as possible.
For what it's worth, the PCA offers its members car control courses as well as autocross and high performance driving events on a regular basis. Not sure if the Corvette clubs offer anything similar, but it would be cool if they did.
I said the owners would rather be out driving a country road with curves over trying to drag race people on the street. You've somehow twisted that into acting like I was claiming all owners track their cars at high performance driving type events. If you ask 10 Porsche owners if they're interested in drag racing Corvettes, I think you'd be surprised at how many have zero interest. Maybe the turbo guys that are tuned, but others would much rather enjoy their car by doing the things they were made for, which isn't driving in a straight line as fast as possible.
For what it's worth, the PCA offers its members car control courses as well as autocross and high performance driving events on a regular basis. Not sure if the Corvette clubs offer anything similar, but it would be cool if they did.
Not much difference there, but nope, I dont mean all owners at all. I mean the average owner likely has as much interest in drag or road racing as a fat person does dieting.
As for the PCA, there's plenty of those events here too
Some numbers I have seen for a 2015 Charger SRT 392 is 0-60 in 4.2 and 1/4 mile in 12.5. If your car is stock, I think the Charger would take you, even from a roll.
I almost never have American cars try and street race me.
It's usually Porsche and BMW drivers that have something to prove.
I find the opposite here, almost never has a high end import tried, a Porsche, very new and damn fast took off in front of me after turning around a corner from a stop, this was before my motor swap but I was supercharged, I tried but he was gone, he had way more traction with the rear engine, it would have been pointless to keep going, from a roll it would have been closer. I don't know Porsche models but it looked and was very fast and I'm sure very expensive.
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Damn! Hope he survived. More than that, I hope he took no one with him. Active handling/traction control off? Truly an Idiot/Moron loose on the streets with absolutely no sense or respect for the safety of others and we haven't even spoken of his inability to drive a high performance vehicle. Everyone take good care!
One vehicle got hit with some pieces from the vettes impact on the steel pole, the guy in the vette survived but a broken leg and pretty bruised up. But yeah he turned off AH/TC, had it been in comp mode he would of never crashed, the stability control on these C5's are very impressive when they dont go haywire.
Too many testosterone filled. phallic symbol worshipers here. A real man would say to a street challenge. " To fast for me pal. I'm too scared " and then smile, and just drive off. Knowing who made the intelligent choice. Not being baited by children, be they 20 year old children or 40 year old or 60 year old children.
ON another note.. look at that impact.... imagine the force necessary to launch the motor 50 feet from the car...Now look at the totally intact cabin area... Not to shabby of a safe design.
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Too many testosterone filled. phallic symbol worshipers here. A real man would say to a street challenge. " To fast for me pal. I'm too scared " and then smile, and just drive off. Knowing who made the intelligent choice. Not being bated by children, be they 20 year old children or 40 year old children.
ON another note.. look at that impact.... imagine the force necessary to launch the motor 50 feet from the car...Now look at the totally intact cabin area... Not to shabby of a safe design.
I wouldn't even bother saying anything to them just ignore the fools trying to prove whos a bigger idiot. life is too short to be changed drastically in a few seconds.
Yes steel frame FTW, the guy was WOT then shifted from 2nd to 3rd then hit a steel utility pole, probably was going 65-75 mph on impact. Well engineered, had it been a C6Z the aluminum would of not sufficed the impact.
Too many testosterone filled. phallic symbol worshipers here. A real man would say to a street challenge. " To fast for me pal. I'm too scared " and then smile, and just drive off. Knowing who made the intelligent choice. Not being baited by children, be they 20 year old children or 40 year old or 60 year old children.
ON another note.. look at that impact.... imagine the force necessary to launch the motor 50 feet from the car...Now look at the totally intact cabin area... Not to shabby of a safe design.
I like to hit the pedal hard every so often, but never street race. A while back I flexed my motor a bit in a good spot and a Camaro pulls up to me at the next intersection "that thing sounds evil, I know I'll lose but wanna race?" "Uh, no thanks, too old for that stuff"
Street racing here? Immediate vehicle impound at discretion of officer. Besides... dangerous.
Yes, that car held up amazing!
Too many testosterone filled. phallic symbol worshipers here. A real man would say to a street challenge. " To fast for me pal. I'm too scared " and then smile, and just drive off. Knowing who made the intelligent choice. Not being baited by children, be they 20 year old children or 40 year old or 60 year old children.
ON another note.. look at that impact.... imagine the force necessary to launch the motor 50 feet from the car...Now look at the totally intact cabin area... Not to shabby of a safe design.
ET's comments are spot on. To the OP did you see the post yet of the C7 crashing out from a 'show'? Typical D move, just like you goosing it 'a little' in traffic with another 'hot' car next to you. Sh*t goes sideways in hurry and can take others with you, luckily the C7 driver only screwed himself. But I'll tell you straight, I see you at all acting like Billy streetracer in traffic I'm on the cell (hands free btw) to the law, I'm sure they'll be impressed with the go pro video. Have a nice day.
ET's comments are spot on. To the OP did you see the post yet of the C7 crashing out from a 'show'? Typical D move, just like you goosing it 'a little' in traffic with another 'hot' car next to you. Sh*t goes sideways in hurry and can take others with you, luckily the C7 driver only screwed himself. But I'll tell you straight, I see you at all acting like Billy streetracer in traffic I'm on the cell (hands free btw) to the law, I'm sure they'll be impressed with the go pro video. Have a nice day.
In general, I agree - but speed limits are generally not set for safety, but tend to be arbitrary and on "surface roads", often the limits are set low because the local residents complained.
Not true at all. Roadway speed limits are NOT arbitrary. Per SWITRS (State Wide Integrated Traffic Recording System). Residential roadways, or roadways that are less than 36' wide are normally set at 25 mph as a rule. Speed limits on roadways over 36' wide are calculated and set by a engineered traffic "speed survey". A traffic engineer with a radar gun clocks the speeds of 100 vehicles passing his position at a certain time of day. Based on the speeds of the 100 vehicles, the roadway speed limit is then calculated at the 85 percentile. Basically what that means is only 15 of the 100 vehicles surveyed are traveling at speeds over the 85 percentile and 85 vehicle were traveling under the 85 percentile. Speed surveys are valid for a four year period and then are redone. If the 85 percentile falls lower or higher than the previous survey, then the speed limit is changed to a lower or higher speed.
Even the thought of Playing in traffic, just disgusts me. knowing that my wife and children are out there driving their cars among these same low mentality challenged drivers... One of the only bad things about this forum from an administrative view is not to continue frowning upon any glorification of street racing, like they use to do here... Like I said, too many mental midgets buying these cars today.
Lost one of my best friends back in 1991 to two idiots playing around on the street, My friend was just in the wrong place at the wrong time and not a part of the event but was part of the " traffic " when he was hit by one of these two dumb kids. My friend left a young wife and two young boys. Jim was a promising young automotive engineer who I was mentoring.
Thanks for speaking up. Questions like this almost make me sick. I wish the mods would go by my understanding of the forum policy and close down threads that get into the topic of "street racing".
Thanks for speaking up. Questions like this almost make me sick. I wish the mods would go by my understanding of the forum policy and close down threads that get into the topic of "street racing".
The forum no longer frowns upon street racing threads and post and allows them. Sad but true.
Its a position that was changed several years ago, with a new ownership and administration.
They stopped the Babe posts because they were not always family friendly, but its ok to glorify an illegal side of our automotive passion where innocent lives are at stake. I can not see any justification for this forum to embrace such a dangerous and illegal aspect.