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Old Nov 29, 2016 | 09:58 PM
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first off id like to say i had an older post and came back to a ton of great info on tuning and dyno i appreciate everyones expertise .

i have a 03 C5,
full intake
exhaust
headers
tune
small others etc..
i came back in town from being gone a month, crank it runs fine,
go though a strong storm and fill the car up with gum-out fuel conditioner and additive and it throws a p0300 code, I've cleared it and its came back with that and p0306 but that one hasn't returned ..
since then I've replaced the fuel filter, new MSD wires and NGK iridium plugs and it still has no acceleration and exhaust tone is deeper .
it idles okay and I'm still getting a spark from the coils . beginning to get frustrated . any help is welcomed. thank you all!
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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by anorman91
first off id like to say i had an older post and came back to a ton of great info on tuning and dyno i appreciate everyones expertise .

i have a 03 C5,
full intake
exhaust
headers
tune
small others etc..
i came back in town from being gone a month, crank it runs fine,
go though a strong storm and fill the car up with gum-out fuel conditioner and additive and it throws a p0300 code, I've cleared it and its came back with that and p0306 but that one hasn't returned ..
since then I've replaced the fuel filter, new MSD wires and NGK iridium plugs and it still has no acceleration and exhaust tone is deeper .
it idles okay and I'm still getting a spark from the coils . beginning to get frustrated . any help is welcomed. thank you all!
P0300 indicates multiple cylinder misfires
P0306 indicates cylinder 6 misfire

Normally this is due to low fuel pressure, a vacuum leak, an EGR problem, or low compression. That is where I would start looking.

1. For Fuel Pressure, use a Fuel Pressure gauge to see what the FP Regulator is reading. Should read between 55-65 lbs. 58 is stock.

2. Perform an EGR test. You may be able to do it without a gauge by depressing the value while running and see if the engine speed changes. Make sure it is running at normal operating temp. If the engine speed does not change, replace.

3. Compression Test: You will compression gauge and test each cylinder.

That is where I would start. Here are other possible causes.

4. Faulty Coil
5. Faulty Spark Plugs and/or Wires
6. Camshaft or Crankshaft sensors
7. Ignition module
8. PCM Issues (this could be due to the tune and takes in many different tables AIC, AFR, SPA, etc.). Here is a link to explain.

http://www.megamanual.com/begintuning.htm
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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by bikeriderga
P0300 indicates multiple cylinder misfires
P0306 indicates cylinder 6 misfire

Normally this is due to low fuel pressure, a vacuum leak, an EGR problem, or low compression. That is where I would start looking.

1. For Fuel Pressure, use a Fuel Pressure gauge to see what the FP Regulator is reading. Should read between 55-65 lbs. 58 is stock.

2. Perform an EGR test. You may be able to do it without a gauge by depressing the value while running and see if the engine speed changes. Make sure it is running at normal operating temp. If the engine speed does not change, replace.

3. Compression Test: You will compression gauge and test each cylinder.

That is where I would start. Here are other possible causes.

4. Faulty Coil
5. Faulty Spark Plugs and/or Wires
6. Camshaft or Crankshaft sensors
7. Ignition module
8. PCM Issues (this could be due to the tune and takes in many different tables AIC, AFR, SPA, etc.). Here is a link to explain.

http://www.megamanual.com/begintuning.htm
VERY helpful reply....thanks for myself and the Forum.
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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 09:37 AM
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very helpful and an idea on where to refocus efforts.. I drove it this morning and the CEL is blinking under acceleration and stays lit when idling .
ill start with a vacuum leak and fuel pressure , sounds the most likely problem. it just doesn't feel mechanical to me it has a pretty hot tune on it now so that's something to look at also .
many thanks guys! ready to have my car back


Originally Posted by bikeriderga
P0300 indicates multiple cylinder misfires
P0306 indicates cylinder 6 misfire

Normally this is due to low fuel pressure, a vacuum leak, an EGR problem, or low compression. That is where I would start looking.

1. For Fuel Pressure, use a Fuel Pressure gauge to see what the FP Regulator is reading. Should read between 55-65 lbs. 58 is stock.

2. Perform an EGR test. You may be able to do it without a gauge by depressing the value while running and see if the engine speed changes. Make sure it is running at normal operating temp. If the engine speed does not change, replace.

3. Compression Test: You will compression gauge and test each cylinder.

That is where I would start. Here are other possible causes.

4. Faulty Coil
5. Faulty Spark Plugs and/or Wires
6. Camshaft or Crankshaft sensors
7. Ignition module
8. PCM Issues (this could be due to the tune and takes in many different tables AIC, AFR, SPA, etc.). Here is a link to explain.

http://www.megamanual.com/begintuning.htm
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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 11:59 AM
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It could also be a failing spark plug or plug wire.
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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 12:05 PM
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It has new plugs and wires and fuel filter
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Originally Posted by 8VETTE7
Last time I checked the C5 NEVER had an EGR.
You are correct... Was thinking off the top of my head, not looking at car!

Good catch..
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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 03:57 PM
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The old plugs didn't look terrible but replaced them all yesterday , all of them are intact and solid
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Originally Posted by anorman91
It has new plugs and wires and fuel filter
With that said, make sure the plug wire is seated really good. It is a common problem for wires not to seat properly the first time.
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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 09:01 PM
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Just throwing this out there but I made a short nitrous pull a few weeks back and I got the flashing CEL. Thought the worst at first lol but after checking the obvious things like plugs and wires etc. turned out the passenger side 02 sensor fried on the inside. It's rare for the 02 sensor causes a misfire but it does happen.
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passanger 02 sensor is my next, i just now re arranged the coils and still same problem, i also put new gas and no change
also, i pulled the boots off while running to see the spark from the coil and the whole left side of the motor had hardly any engine or rpm attitude change to where when i pulled the boots from the coils on the driver side it drastically changed . don't know if this gives anymore clarity


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Just throwing this out there but I made a short nitrous pull a few weeks back and I got the flashing CEL. Thought the worst at first lol but after checking the obvious things like plugs and wires etc. turned out the passenger side 02 sensor fried on the inside. It's rare for the 02 sensor causes a misfire but it does happen.
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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 10:41 PM
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did you get any other code than p0300 like any o2 codes?
i was thinking maybe clogged cats too

Originally Posted by ssrallyred
Just throwing this out there but I made a short nitrous pull a few weeks back and I got the flashing CEL. Thought the worst at first lol but after checking the obvious things like plugs and wires etc. turned out the passenger side 02 sensor fried on the inside. It's rare for the 02 sensor causes a misfire but it does happen.
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Old Dec 1, 2016 | 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by anorman91
did you get any other code than p0300 like any o2 codes?
i was thinking maybe clogged cats too
This is where it gets a little interesting. Since my car has been tuned for the current camshaft and the spray the normal misfire codes from a stock car wont set a "standard" code. Its a bit ironic that you might have to go back to pre OBD II types of diagnostics.

Just like in my case, I had a misfire but no code set for it because of the tune, but the A/F trim readings showed that the problem came from the 02 sensor. I hope this helps.
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Old Dec 3, 2016 | 05:31 PM
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Fixed! After frustration and research I cranked this morning and saw the difference in output from left and right exhaust , cold start and decided to disconnect the cats from the headers and it ran completely fine , no more misfire now just need to decide which cats to go with ! I appreciate everyone's input . I think my tune was running to rich and clogged the stock cats
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