Would appreciate help diagnosing clutch problem

I have a 2003 Z06, 25,000 miles, no modifications.
Problem started a few months back. I was just getting home when clutch pedal started not returning fully to the top. Got home and the fluid was low, so low I wonder if air might have got into system. I topped it up, then did ranger method getting it cleaner. Have had no drop in fluid volume since then. Problem with pedal seems worse when car is cold seems to get better when it's warmed up. Pedal also seems to return to top more frequently if I release it slower than I usually would in normal driving. Have tried using Mityvac to draw out air ( if that's the problem) a little came out, made it slightly better but problem is still there intermittently.
can I get some suggestions on what the cause might be and if I should get the dealer to try one thing before they drop the back end of the car for the slave cylinder? Anyone in North Atlanta that has experience of a good reliable mechanic please chime in.
Last edited by usgecko; Feb 12, 2017 at 06:33 PM.

I have a 2003 Z06, 25,000 miles, no modifications.
Problem started a few months back. I was just getting home when clutch pedal started not returning fully to the top. Got home and the fluid was low, so low I wonder if air might have got into system. I topped it up, then did ranger method getting it cleaner. Have had no drop in fluid volume since then. Problem with pedal seems worse when car is cold seems to get better when it's warmed up. Pedal also seems to return to top more frequently if I release it slower than I usually would in normal driving. Have tried using Mityvac to draw out air ( if that's the problem) a little came out, made it slightly better but problem is still there intermittently.
can I get some suggestions on what the cause might be and if I should get the dealer to try one thing before they drop the back end of the car for the slave cylinder? Anyone in North Atlanta that has experience of a good reliable mechanic please chime in.
Suck out all of the fluid from the master cylinder. fill the turkey baster with a load of clean brake fluid. insert the hose in the little hole at the bottom, put it in as far as you can and then start to flush the system.. be carful you do not want to splash any fluid on the car so use some towels to protect your car.. You will immediately see black contaminated dust filling the bowl with the clean fluid that has magically turned black.. you have to flush this out until the flush is clear.. now fill the bowl, close the lid.. pump the clutch, and do the whole procedure a second time.. takes about 30 minutes..I do this once a year, in the spring.
I do it a couple times a month, and several times during a visit to the track.
I'm going to replace my clutch and master cylinder with an aftermarket one which will eliminate this issue. I know it is an expensive fix, but the only way I know to permanently eliminate it.
Good luck!
Suck out all of the fluid from the master cylinder. fill the turkey baster with a load of clean brake fluid. insert the hose in the little hole at the bottom, put it in as far as you can and then start to flush the system.. be carful you do not want to splash any fluid on the car so use some towels to protect your car.. You will immediately see black contaminated dust filling the bowl with the clean fluid that has magically turned black.. you have to flush this out until the flush is clear.. now fill the bowl, close the lid.. pump the clutch, and do the whole procedure a second time.. takes about 30 minutes..I do this once a year, in the spring.





Like ET stated, your hydraulic system is full of clutch dust GOOP and or some AIR!
If the fluid was LOW, I STRONGLY RECOMMEND conducting a proper system bleed/flush from under the car at the slave cylinder. Its will cost you a bit to properly BLEED/FLUSH the slave BUT, its a WHOLE LOT less than a clutch system replacement.
IF,,,,,,, that doesn't resolve the issue, I would try to replace the MASTER CYLINDER next.
Again, Its a WHOLE LOT less than clutch replacement!
DEALERSHIPS, commonly known as "STEALERSHIPS" are the last place that I would go.
Where do you live in ALANTA? I'm sure someone will be able to recommend a good Corvette Shop for you to patronize.
Bill
The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts
I do it a couple times a month, and several times during a visit to the track.
I'm going to replace my clutch and master cylinder with an aftermarket one which will eliminate this issue. I know it is an expensive fix, but the only way I know to permanently eliminate it.
Good luck!
This is obviously a **** poor design and I can't believe they are still using it. I never heard of people having this problem in other cars and when you ask them if they change their clutch fluid they look at you like you're crazy.
You would think GM would have seen this problem years ago and mount the slave on the outside the bell housing with some mechanical linkage to the throwout bearing like it's been done for about the last 100 or so years.
What is supposed to be the benefit of this system, I'll be damned if I see one and all I see here is somebody having trouble with it
every day on here.
I've got an old 75 MG Midget with a hydraulic clutch and I haven't touched it or added or changed the fluid in it since I've had it since 92 and I'll be damned if I'm going to now either while it's still working fine and the fluid looks like it was just changed. Of course it never gets driven and is inside always.
I just can't imagine why GM hasn't at least put a better bleeding system on these cars so you could flush the damn thing easier without having to take the transmission out of the car to put an aftermarket hose on it. They should have seen this problem after the first year and at least have added the hose by now I would think.
Somebody please tell me why this system is so good that having to change the fluid 10 times a year to keep it clean is justifiable and obviously that's what we have to do to keep it clean.
I'm new to these cars but this is ridiculous with everything else being so advanced.








