13 year old Goodyear run flats safe?
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Been running non-runflats for 15 years and never had a flat though I've had a blowout on my Ford Expedition once. Tire only had about 300 miles on it. Blew on a corner, on a steep hill, and in the rain
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#42
Safety Car
Depends on how bad the blow out tore up the tire ... my ex-FIL used to be a tire tech at the Goodyear proving grounds in Texas. When they first started testing with run flats many years ago they'd drill a 1/2 hole in the side walls. He said they could drive that way at 50 MPH and it was almost impossible to tell the difference in the tire with hole and tire with air. He could drive about 50 MPH for around 100 miles before tire without air would overheat and come apart.
#43
Replace them ASAP now... I wouldn't event feel comfortable driving to the tire shop on those things.
#44
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tire aging
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#46
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#47
Burning Brakes
I don't want the extra weight and stuff in my car sliding around. I want it as light as possible. And I don't want to deal with fixing a flat tire. For this car, run-flats are a good idea as long as there are no real drawbacks/disadvantages to how the tires perform compared to non-run flats. I do hear they may be louder than non run-flats - that would be a drawback.
#48
Safety Car
It seems like people are split on weather or not to use run-flats. I have been thinking about getting away from mine even though I have a tendency to pick up nails.
I guess it depends on weather or not your the kind of person that doesn't mind fixing a tire. The TPMS should give fair warning in most cases, other than catastrophic blow out.
I guess it depends on weather or not your the kind of person that doesn't mind fixing a tire. The TPMS should give fair warning in most cases, other than catastrophic blow out.
#49
Melting Slicks
I've always used runflats on my c5's. The original Goodyears gave runflats a bad reputation. I've had several different brands and I'm now running Pirellis. Good traction and fairly quiet. Better than the Michelins they replaced. Two flats (or would have been) in the middle of the desert was enough for me to keep using them. Runflats are ok.
#50
Burning Brakes
My Corvette is a 2004 with 10,000 miles. It is stored in a heated dry garage all winter. It is pretty much exclusively showed but do drive to them within the state. I am glad this post has come up. I am starting to feel uneasy about the safety of my OEM run flats. Tread looks good although one back tire was repaired once. I am going to replace them this summer and going with the OEM run flats. I know the ride and handling is poorer than non run flats but my car has been lowered on stock bolts and also has a ACI spoiler on the front giving me about 2.5" ground clearance. Towing would not be a great option. So, with this in mind, the run flats would be better for me. Hate to spend the big money, but 13 years seems like time.
#52
Drifting
I don't want the extra weight and stuff in my car sliding around. I want it as light as possible. And I don't want to deal with fixing a flat tire. For this car, run-flats are a good idea as long as there are no real drawbacks/disadvantages to how the tires perform compared to non-run flats. I do hear they may be louder than non run-flats - that would be a drawback.
Runflats cons:
Heavier. 3-5 lbs per tire typically compared to non-runflats. Increased unsprung weight like heavier tires means that your suspension won't perform as well. Additionally, tires are rotating mass. Each lbs of rotating mass is about equivalent to 10 lbs of non-rotating mass. That means that having runflats is about equivalent to carrying 30-50 lbs in your car.
Louder.
Worse handling due to stiffer sidewalls.
Worse ride due to stiffer sidewalls and higher unsprung weight.
There is a reason the Z06 came without runflat tires and instead a tire seal and inflator kit. Runflats would not give the Z06 optimal performance.
#53
I pretty much know the answer to this question but just want to hear it from you guys. Got a 03 coupe with only 16k miles and they have the original F1 run flats on them. They still have a lot of tread but from what have been reading they probably are unsafe.
I didn't know that tires have an age life until getting this car recently.
Thoughts?
Thanks,
Rob
I didn't know that tires have an age life until getting this car recently.
Thoughts?
Thanks,
Rob
I went through all this 3 weeks ago exactly. !!! In the end the tires were were unavoidably old hard crystalized and just plan unfit and you will save yourself some grief if you just stop wishing it was ok to run them and buy a set. I am not picking at you but I agonized over replacing my tires I thought might be drivable. In my case and with 4 corner easy driving even wear and 18500 miles and un be known to me I had cords showing on the inner tread block of the right front, I did not even realize since you cant see back in there. it was visable in one area about 6" around. I bought Toyo Proxes T1 Sports from a famous auction site seller with wheels mounted and balanced delivered for the approx. cost on new good years. Reading reviews from a few years ago, when these tires were previously available and they were very well liked and I can now concur why. In the end tires that old are just done... The current Toyo's I referenced above were this winter build dates for what it is worth.
#54
Instructor
I had a 2000 coupe and always ran runflats - replacements were better than original Goodyears. I now have a 2002 that came with Nitto non-runflats. What a difference in ride and I can't believe how quiet it is. I immediately purchased a flat kit (compressor, fix-a-flat, plug kit, and AAA membership) and will never buy runflats again. I've been on two 3000+ mile trips with this car and haven't had a problem.
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I never had to think about tire aging while I was driving 2 cars 25K a year. They were replaced every 2-3 years. But now retired having 3 cars, none of them go over 5K a year(insurance credit a plus). I replaced my C5 run flats that were perfect in treat but 5 years old. It was heartbreaking (never had the noise or ride issues others reported) but listen to the tire experts (age does have benefits) and replaced them last year with non run flats.
#58
Burning Brakes
I have a 2006 Z06 with 2,400 miles on it and the original Goodyear run flats. They look fine, but I think they have hardened with age. My concern is a blow-out and damaging the body. The other day I did some spirited driving and they griped and rode fine. They seem to do a lot better in warm weather and are like bricks in cold weather. I'm looking at getting Michelin PSS run flats pretty soon since I'm riding on 11 year old tires. What may have preserved them is a climate controlled garage and low miles. But not going to take the chance - the car is to nice to screw up.
#59
Tire Failure At Tire Dealer
Took my 04 C5 in for a slow leak in the front. Tires were Mich Sport Pilots with gobs of tread. They were on the car when I bought it a year ago. The tire dealer put it on the breakdown machine. You can see from the picture that the blade went right through the side wall. They said this had never happened before. When checked the tires were 8 years old! On closer inspection there were some small cracks at the base of several tread blocks. They replaced all tires with a set of Conti Extreme Contact DWS 06 at cost.
The fact that I'd spent a year on the interstate and carving mountain roads scares the crap out of me. Love the new tires. I think I got lucky. Question: Has anyone seen a tire damaged this way?
#60
Lol, I had to show my wife that after posting this question about 13 year old tires, there is a whole article now about the dangers of old tires. I just ordered a set of non run flats BFGoodrich Gforce comps.
The tires on the car had a lot meat on there so I asked the original owner when he changed them and he said they were original! Not what I wanted to hear. I could have used the money I am paying for the tires for a set of wheels. Oh well. At least my tires will be safer and this may have saved my car and life.
Thanks to all who responded.
Rob
The tires on the car had a lot meat on there so I asked the original owner when he changed them and he said they were original! Not what I wanted to hear. I could have used the money I am paying for the tires for a set of wheels. Oh well. At least my tires will be safer and this may have saved my car and life.
Thanks to all who responded.
Rob