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Old Mar 24, 2017 | 10:22 PM
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Hey guys I have a 99 Nassau blue c5 just wondering I'm lookin at buying long tube headers saw a great deal on tsp headers without the x-pipe my question is I was gonna use those headers and mate them to my stock h-pipe (possible take cats off)
is there any problem with doing that
and is there any benefits to getting a set with the x-pipe
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Old Mar 25, 2017 | 01:20 AM
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Tried 'TSP' headers on my car... too quiet/ restrictive.
Went with LG PRos, ceramic coated (highly recommended) Random Tech cats into X pipe with Borla Stingers.
The LG's, are night and day better than TSP in my book. Kooks are also a great brand.

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I don't see how you would even think about taking cats off and expect to pass MA. inspection. I have XS power long tube headers and high flow cats if you want another option.
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Old Mar 25, 2017 | 07:32 AM
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I don't see how you would even think about taking cats off and expect to pass MA. inspection. I have XS power long tube headers and high flow cats if you want another option.
keep the cats, or go hi-flo's
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keep the cats, or go hi-flo's

I have the Kooks long tube headers with the hi flow green cats. Kooks headers install easily with out having to jack up the engine or disconnecting the steering shaft or removing the starter. Just unbolted and moved the ground strap out of the way and they slip up from underneath in seconds. They fit perfectly, no clearance issues like other brands. I had mine ceramic coated for heat and appearance, highly recommended. Also since the Kooks headers are so easily installed and their great fitment it will be much less of a hassle down the road to change out the starter if needed or to replace a clutch, another reason that I chose Kooks plus the quality is second to none.
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Old Mar 25, 2017 | 08:45 AM
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I don't see how you would even think about taking cats off and expect to pass MA. inspection. I have XS power long tube headers and high flow cats if you want another option.

Car is a 99 so doesn't have to pass emissions anymore just safety so no problems with passing inspection
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Really looking to keep cost down since I'm trying to build this on a budget I have a c6 that has slp headers sounds great but we're expensive
seems like c5 prices aren't that far off 🤔
Really trtin to build just a budget car fastest way possible without breaking the bank so whatever makes the car loudest the cheapest I have corsa touring exhaust and not really happy with the sound not very loud so figure Headers will make it a lot louder
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Car is a 99 so doesn't have to pass emissions anymore just safety so no problems with passing inspection
Mine is a '99 and what is great about Kooks is that they are one of the few header manufacturers that build them to specifically fit the '97-'00 model year C5's. No air tube modifications necessary. In Florida there are no emission inspections but I kept my car emission legal anyway, it really doesn't affect the HP or torque at all. Look at Maryland Speed, they offer the best deals on Kooks headers, that y gave me the best price by far.

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Originally Posted by Jrockk
Really looking to keep cost down since I'm trying to build this on a budget I have a c6 that has slp headers sounds great but we're expensive
seems like c5 prices aren't that far off 🤔
Really trtin to build just a budget car fastest way possible without breaking the bank so whatever makes the car loudest the cheapest I have corsa touring exhaust and not really happy with the sound not very loud so figure Headers will make it a lot louder
Be careful going too loud. A lot of inspection stations in MA are cracking down on altered exhaust. An annoyed LEO could give you a ticket which is a moving violation in MA.

Back in my Honda days my best friend ended up having to go to driver re-education training for having a few too many altered exhaust / altered ride height tickets. I know typically V8s get more of a free pass than inline 4 / boxers by nature, but it's something to be aware of if you're going obnoxiously loud for the sake of being loud.

I do agree the Corsa touring is quiet (that's what I've got on my car as it came with it).
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Be careful going too loud. A lot of inspection stations in MA are cracking down on altered exhaust. An annoyed LEO could give you a ticket which is a moving violation in MA.

Back in my Honda days my best friend ended up having to go to driver re-education training for having a few too many altered exhaust / altered ride height tickets. I know typically V8s get more of a free pass than inline 4 / boxers by nature, but it's something to be aware of if you're going obnoxiously loud for the sake of being loud.

I do agree the Corsa touring is quiet (that's what I've got on my car as it came with it).
thanks I know how they are most of them are my friends my c6 has long tubes high flows and straight pipes no problems 👌
Really don't want this car that loud but want it to make some sound right now I feel like I'm driving a Prius 🤣
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Originally Posted by Mike98SilVert
Mine is a '99 and what is great about Kooks is that they are one of the few header manufacturers that build them to specifically fit the '97-'00 model year C5's. No air tube modifications necessary. In Florida there are no emission inspections but I kept my car emission legal anyway, it really doesn't affect the HP or torque at all. Look at Maryland Speed, they offer the best deals on Kooks headers, that y gave me the best price by far.
1.) Do you know if American Racing fits as well as Kooks (I have a 2000)?

2.) Will American Racing headers require air tube modifications?
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Old Mar 25, 2017 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Slo Yelo C5
1.) Do you know if American Racing fits as well as Kooks (I have a 2000)?

2.) Will American Racing headers require air tube modifications?
im pretty sure most company's I've seen make them to fit the 97-00 most say require 2001 dipstick some will sell you it
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im pretty sure most company's I've seen make them to fit the 97-00 most say require 2001 dipstick some will sell you it
So you need a 2001-2004 oil dipstick and dipstick tube? The part that is like $50-$70?

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Originally Posted by Slo Yelo C5
So you need a 2001-2004 oil dipstick and dipstick tube? The part that is like $50-$70?
no idea how much it is but most company's say it requires the stick and tube
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Originally Posted by Jrockk
Car is a 99 so doesn't have to pass emissions anymore just safety so no problems with passing inspection
DOH ! I forgot about that, you can get the XS power with high flow cats for under $1000.00 if I remember correctly since you're on a budget. JMHO
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Originally Posted by ZigZag
DOH ! I forgot about that, you can get the XS power with high flow cats for under $1000.00 if I remember correctly since you're on a budget. JMHO
thanks for the link now it's even harder to decide lol
so xspower headers or tsp?
Abyone have them what's your commments
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I've got the TSP long tubes on my '99. I recall someone above saying they're 'too restrictive', but I'm managing 700+ to the wheels through them.
Don't remove the cats. Get a set of high flow cats and put them on. Your potential grand children will thank you, and street cars have been shown to make LESS power without the cats.
An X-pipe will make slightly more power than an H-, but you're not likely to notice any difference on a basically stock engine.
If your budget will support it, but new high flow cats and an X-pipe.
If you're doing it on the cheap, just move your stock cats and modify the existing H-pipe.
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I've got the TSP long tubes on my '99. I recall someone above saying they're 'too restrictive', but I'm managing 700+ to the wheels through them.
Don't remove the cats. Get a set of high flow cats and put them on. Your potential grand children will thank you, and street cars have been shown to make LESS power without the cats.
An X-pipe will make slightly more power than an H-, but you're not likely to notice any difference on a basically stock engine.
If your budget will support it, but new high flow cats and an X-pipe.
If you're doing it on the cheap, just move your stock cats and modify the existing H-pipe.
So how do they sound what exhaust do you have ? Any sound clips
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Anyone try speed engineering headers ?
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Originally Posted by Slo Yelo C5
1.) Do you know if American Racing fits as well as Kooks (I have a 2000)?

2.) Will American Racing headers require air tube modifications?
AR headers are quality built headers that fit well and do not require air tube modifications. They don't install as easily as Kooks though.
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