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Old Sep 11, 2017 | 03:59 PM
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I have a headlight problem on my newly purchased 99.
First off, it's NOT the plastic gear nor is it a fuse or relay.
The driver's side headlight will not pop up when turned on. Not that it matters, the light bulb comes on. BUT, if I turn the **** that raises the headlight manually (just a tad) and then try to pop up the headlights, it will pop up like it should. Then I put them down and try to put them up again, the driver's side will stay down. Then I turn the headlights off, turn that adjustment **** (just a tad) then try to pop up the headlights, it will pop up like it should. I repeated many times and every time I turn that **** the headlight will work as it should and every time after it works one time, it will no longer pop up.
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P.S. The previous owner has replaced the plastic gear with a metal one.
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Old Sep 11, 2017 | 05:40 PM
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Worn bumpers?
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Old Sep 11, 2017 | 05:42 PM
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I'm no expert but maybe the motors on its way out and giving it that little nudge is enough to get it started?
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Old Sep 11, 2017 | 07:14 PM
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Had the same problem. Your either missing a headlight bumper stop(s) or damaged one(s). Solved my problem. I was missing one rear stop.
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Originally Posted by 2ndvett01
Had the same problem. Your either missing a headlight bumper stop(s) or damaged one(s). Solved my problem. I was missing one rear stop.
Anybody got a picture of these bumper stops? Are you talking about these?


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Originally Posted by knewblewkorvette
Anybody got a picture of these bumper stops? Are you talking about these?


Yep - those are them...there should be four of them. You can get them at RodneyDickman.com

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Old Sep 12, 2017 | 04:12 PM
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This maybe a dumb question but do I have to remove the headlight assembly to see where the other two bumper stops are?
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Thanks allot 8VETTE7. I looked at the other bumper stops and the one I could see definitely has an indentation in it. So I just ordered 4 bumper stops from Rodney. I'm also thinking since the previous owner just replaced the gear in the headlight assembly, he forgot the 3 little washers that go only on the driver's side headlight motor. Lucky for me, I have those washers left over from a previous install on my 98's passenger side headlight. Those too came from Rodney.
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Did you notice (before it wouldn't open) that when closed the front of the lid(s) sat just a tad too low? I noticed a few days ago with the sun at a low angle that both my Z06's were closing about an 1/8" too far. I assume my closing stops probably need to be replaced.
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You can try pulling the bumper(s) off the post and flipping it over and reinstall it on the post. If they are indented the opposite side will (should) be flat unless someone had already flipped them before. Worth a try until your new bumpers arrive.

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Great Thread! I have the same problem on my new-to-me '03Z and I can also see that one closing bump stop is dented.

I'm sure it is easy enough to start taking things apart until I can get to them, but is there a how-to thread with pictures just to make things easy? I did a search but didn't find one.

Thanks!!
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Great Thread! I have the same problem on my new-to-me '03Z and I can also see that one closing bump stop is dented.

I'm sure it is easy enough to start taking things apart until I can get to them, but is there a how-to thread with pictures just to make things easy? I did a search but didn't find one.

Thanks!!
Rodney should be sending me a copy of how to R&R the headlight assembly. If he does, I will post a copy of it here. The bumper stops have already shipped so I expect them still this week.
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Originally Posted by MikeG37
Did you notice (before it wouldn't open) that when closed the front of the lid(s) sat just a tad too low? I noticed a few days ago with the sun at a low angle that both my Z06's were closing about an 1/8" too far. I assume my closing stops probably need to be replaced.
No, my headlight seem to be flush with the hood and front bumper but I see what you are saying, if the bumper stop is indented a 1/8", the headlight would be an 1/8' low. The bumper stops are on the way, I'll post results when they get here.

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Originally Posted by knewblewkorvette
No, my headlight seem to be flush with the hood and front bumper but I see what you are saying, if the bumper stop is indented a 1/8", the headlight would be an 1/8' low.
This is slightly incorrect. The "bumper" side is on the smaller pivot arm side of the headlamp motor, not the main throw arm side. Indention in the bump stops will not make a noticeable difference in the height of the body panel for the headlamp door because the orientation of the main throw arm will not change; it will stay the same. The only way there would be a noticeable difference is if there is damage to the motor arm. It's a very small "window" of sorts where the pivot arm moves from fully closed to fully open, and the motor itself has no physical "stop" built into it.

You'll see what I'm talking about when you go to remove the headlamp motor.

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I'm sure it is easy enough to start taking things apart until I can get to them, but is there a how-to thread with pictures just to make things easy? I did a search but didn't find one.
I didn't take a lot of detailed pictures but I recently rebuilt the headlight on my driver's side and posted a thread in Tech.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ick-guide.html

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One note about the bumpers not mentioned. Typically you can get by for a while by switching the "open" bumpers on the headlight door lid with the "close" bumpers on the pivot arm. The "open" bumpers do not get indented on their sides with use, while the "close" ones do.

Indeed though due to their age getting replacements is a good preventative item and Rodney's are a good product.
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Nice write up! Thanks!

I'll try flipping my bumpers first since they look to be in good shape other than the little dent. But if they look bad I'll order a set from Rodney for sure!
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Rodney ships fast, got the four new bumper stops in 3 days. He also was nice enough to send the requested instructions on how to remove headlight assembly. Lucky for me, I didn't really need them because once I got the plastic headlight cover off (the one held on with 3 phillips screws), I could reach in there and grab the one bumper stop I could see with a dent in it. I could have just flipped it, but it fit loose. So I put a new bumper stop on (it fit tight) and plugged the headlight back in. Voila, headlights work as they should now.

The indentation was less than a 1/8".
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Originally Posted by knewblewkorvette
Rodney ships fast, got the four new bumper stops in 3 days. He also was nice enough to send the requested instructions on how to remove headlight assembly. Lucky for me, I didn't really need them because once I got the plastic headlight cover off (the one held on with 3 phillips screws), I could reach in there and grab the one bumper stop I could see with a dent in it. I could have just flipped it, but it fit loose. So I put a new bumper stop on (it fit tight) and plugged the headlight back in. Voila, headlights work as they should now.

The indentation was less than a 1/8".
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I see Bud tried to get in th pic too!
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Fixed mine this weekend. It was very easy and I was able to flip the bump stop since the opposite side was fine and it still fit nice and snug.





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