Planning an HID conversion.
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I doubt an LED bulb in a stock C5 headlamp assembly will produce an acceptable/legal beam pattern.
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LEDs in the ACA projectors will provide barely adequate beam pattern in the sense that there will be minimal glare, but the pattern down the road will be all over the place.
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There is typically an older generation posting on this forum, but believe me, check outthe Vleds website as a reference... LED is in, HID is out. You can put in almost any made and model of car and get a plug and play LED bulb set. I have converted 3 of my vehicles. HID was last decade and still popular until about 2014-2015. I have LED high's and lows in one of my cars, where I had HID lows and Halogen Highs, its a night and day difference, especially before when you had to wait for the light output of the HID low beams to kick in .. a brief pause while the ballast did its work where you had no light output on a highway... just dangerous. The failed ballasts I went through.... HID is absolute garbage IMO.
Now if you want to talk about those whole projector assemblies posted above with HID bulbs and ballasts, each to their own, but those looks wise, I think they look tacky and cheap.
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I had HID lows and Halogen Highs, its a night and day difference, especially before when you had to wait for the light output of the HID low beams to kick in .. a brief pause while the ballast did its work where you had no light output on a highway... just dangerous. The failed ballasts I went through.... HID is absolute garbage IMO.
Now if you want to talk about those whole projector assemblies posted above with HID bulbs and ballasts, each to their own, but those looks wise, I think they look tacky and cheap.
Now if you want to talk about those whole projector assemblies posted above with HID bulbs and ballasts, each to their own, but those looks wise, I think they look tacky and cheap.
The actual danger of LEDs in low beam function has little to do with output or pattern and more to do with the need for a headlight resistor to get the lights to raise/lower. This resistor has to convert nearly at least 50 watts of power into heat for long periods of time which is nothing short of a fire hazard.
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The light output is actually excellent. Acceptable yes, Legal I haven't seen anything contrary. Plenty of Video's online, including some with C5's.
There is typically an older generation posting on this forum, but believe me, check outthe Vleds website as a reference... LED is in, HID is out. You can put in almost any made and model of car and get a plug and play LED bulb set. I have converted 3 of my vehicles. HID was last decade and still popular until about 2014-2015. I have LED high's and lows in one of my cars, where I had HID lows and Halogen Highs, its a night and day difference, especially before when you had to wait for the light output of the HID low beams to kick in .. a brief pause while the ballast did its work where you had no light output on a highway... just dangerous. The failed ballasts I went through.... HID is absolute garbage IMO.
Now if you want to talk about those whole projector assemblies posted above with HID bulbs and ballasts, each to their own, but those looks wise, I think they look tacky and cheap.
There is typically an older generation posting on this forum, but believe me, check outthe Vleds website as a reference... LED is in, HID is out. You can put in almost any made and model of car and get a plug and play LED bulb set. I have converted 3 of my vehicles. HID was last decade and still popular until about 2014-2015. I have LED high's and lows in one of my cars, where I had HID lows and Halogen Highs, its a night and day difference, especially before when you had to wait for the light output of the HID low beams to kick in .. a brief pause while the ballast did its work where you had no light output on a highway... just dangerous. The failed ballasts I went through.... HID is absolute garbage IMO.
Now if you want to talk about those whole projector assemblies posted above with HID bulbs and ballasts, each to their own, but those looks wise, I think they look tacky and cheap.
Your issues are due to your own ignorance on the subject, and you are not in any way qualified for this kind of advice.
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If installing led's is working for him, that's fine, but the older crowd feels safer with what has been proven to work.
Not that led's wouldn't work, but most are content to stick with hid technology.
Bob.
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I am curious what is your basis for stating "VALED'S is the last place you would trust for information.
Could you please explain?
Bob.
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I think "roddy13" was using age to make a point that older people are more or less set in their ways, and shun some new technology, or idea.
If installing led's is working for him, that's fine, but the older crowd feels safer with what has been proven to work.
Not that led's wouldn't work, but most are content to stick with hid technology.
Bob.
If installing led's is working for him, that's fine, but the older crowd feels safer with what has been proven to work.
Not that led's wouldn't work, but most are content to stick with hid technology.
Bob.
FYI, I'm in my mid-20s, so it has nothing to do with my age. I have LED fog lights because I am able to use Morimoto XB LED fogs.
Simple. Would you trust the dealership salesman that claims the Prius he is selling can outrun the Corvette? They're in the business of selling you their LEDs, they obviously wouldn't point out any flaws with it, the exact opposite in fact.
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Well, there is being set in one's ways, and then there's being educated. Currently, the only right way to get better lighting in C5 Corvettes is HIR bulbs or an HID projector retrofit with projectors. Until someone makes an LED projector that works with ACA or other projector housings, or Radioflyer (or someone else) designs a headlight around LED projectors, LED headlights do not belong in a C5 Corvette.
FYI, I'm in my mid-20s, so it has nothing to do with my age. I have LED fog lights because I am able to use Morimoto XB LED fogs.
Simple. Would you trust the dealership salesman that claims the Prius he is selling can outrun the Corvette? They're in the business of selling you their LEDs, they obviously wouldn't point out any flaws with it, the exact opposite in fact.
FYI, I'm in my mid-20s, so it has nothing to do with my age. I have LED fog lights because I am able to use Morimoto XB LED fogs.
Simple. Would you trust the dealership salesman that claims the Prius he is selling can outrun the Corvette? They're in the business of selling you their LEDs, they obviously wouldn't point out any flaws with it, the exact opposite in fact.
The reason I ask is I am interested in this led bulb that I see videos of on youtube.
A 15 bulb comparison is a pretty good judge of how these bulbs operate in any vehicle, which are good, and which to stay away from.
In all the videos I watched, not one stated anything about a projector lens specific to any vehicle, or that a special projector lens was needed.
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LEDs do better than HIDs in halogen housings, that much is true. However, they are still not better than halogens. The light pattern is off (most people do not know what to look for), and whiter does not necessarily mean brighter. LEDs and HIDs also tend to throw a lot more foreground light, which many people mistake for better lighting. Yes, it makes better lighting right in front of your car, but all that does is compromise your vision down the road. By the time something enters the foreground area at highway speeds, it is impossible for you to avoid.
You can watch the video below for a comparison. This is also in a best case scenario, as projectors are able to focus light better than reflectors regardless of light source. If LEDs do that badly in projectors, you can extrapolate how much worse they would do in reflectors.
You can watch the video below for a comparison. This is also in a best case scenario, as projectors are able to focus light better than reflectors regardless of light source. If LEDs do that badly in projectors, you can extrapolate how much worse they would do in reflectors.
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Well, there is being set in one's ways, and then there's being educated. Currently, the only right way to get better lighting in C5 Corvettes is HIR bulbs or an HID projector retrofit with projectors. Until someone makes an LED projector that works with ACA or other projector housings, or Radioflyer (or someone else) designs a headlight around LED projectors, LED headlights do not belong in a C5 Corvette.
FYI, I'm in my mid-20s, so it has nothing to do with my age. I have LED fog lights because I am able to use Morimoto XB LED fogs.
Simple. Would you trust the dealership salesman that claims the Prius he is selling can outrun the Corvette? They're in the business of selling you their LEDs, they obviously wouldn't point out any flaws with it, the exact opposite in fact.
FYI, I'm in my mid-20s, so it has nothing to do with my age. I have LED fog lights because I am able to use Morimoto XB LED fogs.
Simple. Would you trust the dealership salesman that claims the Prius he is selling can outrun the Corvette? They're in the business of selling you their LEDs, they obviously wouldn't point out any flaws with it, the exact opposite in fact.
Using your advice, then it would also apply to the Radioflyer led business, as well as any other business selling led's.
If you have a beef with some company, let all of us know who, and what that company did, that turned you against them.
Have you had actual dealings with VLED'S?
Bob.
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Once again, do you have definite proof that VLED'S is not a company to do business with.
Using your advice, then it would also apply to the Radioflyer led business, as well as any other business selling led's.
If you have a beef with some company, let all of us know who, and what that company did, that turned you against them.
Have you had actual dealings with VLED'S?
Bob.
Using your advice, then it would also apply to the Radioflyer led business, as well as any other business selling led's.
If you have a beef with some company, let all of us know who, and what that company did, that turned you against them.
Have you had actual dealings with VLED'S?
Bob.
I have nothing against the company as a whole, nor do I have a problem with their other LED products. If I thought one of their other LED products suited my needs, I wouldn't hesitate to purchase it.
The beef I do have are people that run HID and LED bulbs in housings that are not meant for them. It is annoying and downright dangerous.
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Now you are putting words in my mouth. I did not say anything to that effect. All I said is that I would not trust their claims that LED headlight bulbs are superior to halogen headlight bulbs in halogen housings.
I have nothing against the company as a whole, nor do I have a problem with their other LED products. If I thought one of their other LED products suited my needs, I wouldn't hesitate to purchase it.
The beef I do have are people that run HID and LED bulbs in housings that are not meant for them. It is annoying and downright dangerous.
I have nothing against the company as a whole, nor do I have a problem with their other LED products. If I thought one of their other LED products suited my needs, I wouldn't hesitate to purchase it.
The beef I do have are people that run HID and LED bulbs in housings that are not meant for them. It is annoying and downright dangerous.
Read your previous post#27, you stated VLED'S is the last company you would trust for "that kind of information".
Now do you have a reason for stating that, or are you just flapping your gums with unsubstantiated proof that this company is doing anything that would cause us not to shop there?
Like I said, if you had a problem with this company, it would be nice to know so the rest of us in the market for lighting, could get a head's up.
Bob.
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Jeez guys, what is with the hostile replys and comments??????
We are all here to help and learn. There are always many ways to do anything
We are all here to help and learn. There are always many ways to do anything
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I don't think I am putting words in your mouth.
Read your previous post#27, you stated VLED'S is the last company you would trust for "that kind of information".
Now do you have a reason for stating that, or are you just flapping your gums with unsubstantiated proof that this company is doing anything that would cause us not to shop there?
Like I said, if you had a problem with this company, it would be nice to know so the rest of us in the market for lighting, could get a head's up.
Bob.
Read your previous post#27, you stated VLED'S is the last company you would trust for "that kind of information".
Now do you have a reason for stating that, or are you just flapping your gums with unsubstantiated proof that this company is doing anything that would cause us not to shop there?
Like I said, if you had a problem with this company, it would be nice to know so the rest of us in the market for lighting, could get a head's up.
Bob.
Did you not read the post I quoted? He said "check outthe Vleds website as a reference... LED is in, HID is out." No, LEDs are not in. HIDs are not out. Neither are halogens.
And if you think I'm being edgy, that's not even half of it right now. I just got majorly pissed off by my boss, so think before you respond next time. Or you might earn yourself a block, because I don't come on this forum to deal with willful stupidity, I deal with enough of that crap at work.
