Notices
C5 General General C5 Corvette and C5 Z06 Discussion not covered in Tech

Double Din Head Unit Upgrade Question (Existing)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 17, 2018 | 01:35 PM
  #1  
MSG C5's Avatar
MSG C5
Thread Starter
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime Gold
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 17,769
Likes: 3,697
From: The Sunshine State
2022 C5 of the Year Finalist - Modified
2021 C5 of the Year Finalist - Modified
C7 of the Year - Modified Finalist 2021
Finalist 2020 C7 of the Year -- Modified
2020 C5 of the Year Finalist - Modified
C5 of Year Finalist (appearance mods) 2019
2018 C5 of Year Finalist
Default Double Din Head Unit Upgrade Question (Existing)

I installed my original Double Din head unit back in 2012. I worked with former vendor DD Mods and the install and the Kenwood DNX 6980 unit has worked great over the past 6 years.

I now want to upgrade my head unit with one that offers Apple Car Play. The good news is the costs are about 50% of what they were in 2012 plus I can bypass a NAV unit because I can use my iPhone mapping apps/software.

One of the units I'm considering is the Kenwood DDX9703S. The question I have is that since this new unit has a mechanical or tilting face to access auxiliary USB ports or for DVD/CD access and my current DNX 6980 does not, will I have any issues retrofitting the new head unit into my existing double-din/modified center console allowing the head unit screen to extend and open? I'm hoping it will be a simple plug-n-play (re) modification as I plan to use my existing speakers, however I also plan to upgrade the amplifier which is installed in the trunk floor panel. Also, since the C5 doesn't have steering wheel controls, the new head unit will need volume controls as I prefer to still have a tactile feel when adjusting volume vs. using my iPhone. This particular Kenwood unit has the volume up/down control arrows at the bottom vs. the volume **** my current DNX 6980 has.

Existing head unit/setup:



Video demo of the DDX9703S:


Any feedback is appreciated. Especially from someone who has performed a similar (re) mod.

Thanks!




Last edited by MSG C5; Feb 17, 2018 at 01:38 PM.
Reply
Old Feb 17, 2018 | 03:10 PM
  #2  
MSG C5's Avatar
MSG C5
Thread Starter
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime Gold
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 17,769
Likes: 3,697
From: The Sunshine State
2022 C5 of the Year Finalist - Modified
2021 C5 of the Year Finalist - Modified
C7 of the Year - Modified Finalist 2021
Finalist 2020 C7 of the Year -- Modified
2020 C5 of the Year Finalist - Modified
C5 of Year Finalist (appearance mods) 2019
2018 C5 of Year Finalist
Default

Originally Posted by whalepirot
I had 4 (warranty replacement) replacement top-of-the-line Kenwood units. All suffered the same pre-amp noise problem, as did a display unit. While they boasted apps for Droid and Apple, my experience was like others expressed online: didn't work. Suggest homework on Crutchfield and A-zon for user experience and if purchased, from a source that take returns.

Kenwood is trying to change its reputation for poor quality, but haven't nailed it yet, in my experience.
Thanks. Fortunately, I haven't had any negative experiences with my current Kenwood HU with the exception that the touch screen response, specifically the artist or track scrolling could be (a lot) better.

Any recommendation of other similar head units that offer Apple Car Play? Pioneer?

I found this recent review on-line so it gives me some other models to consider. However I'm mostly concerned with whether or not any folding screen models will work with my existing modified console. I would think it would if I don't exceed the original DD dimensions.

https://10carbest.com/apple-carplay-stereo

Last edited by MSG C5; Feb 17, 2018 at 03:20 PM.
Reply
Old Feb 17, 2018 | 04:08 PM
  #3  
lebeeby's Avatar
lebeeby
Instructor
Supporting Lifetime
 
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 205
Likes: 34
Default

FWIW...I have a DDX 9903 in my Double D modified center console
Attached Images  
Reply
Old Feb 17, 2018 | 07:05 PM
  #4  
jdmvette's Avatar
jdmvette
Night Owl for life
Supporting Lifetime
20 Year Member
All Eyes On Me
Shutterbug
Top Answer: 5
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 24,729
Likes: 4,564
From: Bugs Bunny should'a made a left turn here
Default

Alpine
Attached Images  
Reply
Old Feb 17, 2018 | 10:17 PM
  #5  
MSG C5's Avatar
MSG C5
Thread Starter
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime Gold
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 17,769
Likes: 3,697
From: The Sunshine State
2022 C5 of the Year Finalist - Modified
2021 C5 of the Year Finalist - Modified
C7 of the Year - Modified Finalist 2021
Finalist 2020 C7 of the Year -- Modified
2020 C5 of the Year Finalist - Modified
C5 of Year Finalist (appearance mods) 2019
2018 C5 of Year Finalist
Default

Thanks for all the suggestions. For those of you who have tilting screens that open and/or extend forward, any issues with fitment on an existing double-din center console? Any special install issues or tips?
Reply
Old Feb 17, 2018 | 11:24 PM
  #6  
m4bgringo's Avatar
m4bgringo
Advanced
 
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 72
Likes: 6
Default

Originally Posted by MSG C5
Thanks for all the suggestions. For those of you who have tilting screens that open and/or extend forward, any issues with fitment on an existing double-din center console? Any special install issues or tips?
I did my own conversion in our '02 'Vert. It came out pretty nice. I have always used Pioneer equipment. I feel it is a good bang for the buck. Of course there is much better out there, but with the top down we have PLENTY of volume with no distortion. Did two amps, one for the front and rear speakers, one for the sub. Sounds great.

I always use the remote to control the head unit. I know where all the buttons are to raise/lower volume, skip the current track, etc... without even looking at it. I think I have done four of their double din head units in the last six years or so. They have all been perfect.

Now, I don't use Apple Play or any of that other stuff so I can't help you there. I usually just use my USB sticks for my music or XM Radio. I have a dvd for the wife that is always in the unit with 600 or so songs on it for her, never have to swap that one out! I have never watched movies on any of them, just listen to our tunes!
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2018 | 09:32 AM
  #7  
twill's Avatar
twill
Racer
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 319
Likes: 90
From: North Ridgeville Ohio
Default Got mine from DD


Originally Posted by MSG C5
Thanks for all the suggestions. For those of you who have tilting screens that open and/or extend forward, any issues with fitment on an existing double-din center console? Any special install issues or tips?



I got my Kenwood DNN9922 from DD Mods a couple of years ago,and had him modify a bezel for me. It has a tilting faceplate and it all works fine. I am however thinking of replacing my bezel because the one I got back from Dennis didn't fit the way I would like it to. There are now two other options that I didn't have two years ago and I will go with the one that seems to be the best.
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2018 | 10:44 AM
  #8  
MSG C5's Avatar
MSG C5
Thread Starter
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime Gold
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 17,769
Likes: 3,697
From: The Sunshine State
2022 C5 of the Year Finalist - Modified
2021 C5 of the Year Finalist - Modified
C7 of the Year - Modified Finalist 2021
Finalist 2020 C7 of the Year -- Modified
2020 C5 of the Year Finalist - Modified
C5 of Year Finalist (appearance mods) 2019
2018 C5 of Year Finalist
Default

Also, has anyone run the USB connecting cable from the HU under the center console and into the center console armrest? If so, any routing suggestions or tips I should be aware of?

In my current configuration, I have the USB cable connected from the back of the HU and routed into the passenger glove box. That's OK from an iPod perspective, however if I connect directly via USB to my iPhone, I want it in the center console for easier access.

Also, any suggestions on a better, aftermarket USB cord than the standard Apple fire wire?
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

5 Best & 5 Most Overrated Corvette Track Packages of All Time!

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Every 2027 Corvette Engine Explained

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

Designer Imagines A Corvette That Looks More Like a Corvette Than the Corvette

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

 Brett Foote
story-5

10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-7

10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
Old Feb 20, 2018 | 10:58 AM
  #9  
jrprich's Avatar
jrprich
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 5,747
Likes: 224
From: Hillsboro Oregon
Default

Originally Posted by MSG C5
Also, has anyone run the USB connecting cable from the HU under the center console and into the center console armrest? If so, any routing suggestions or tips I should be aware of?

In my current configuration, I have the USB cable connected from the back of the HU and routed into the passenger glove box. That's OK from an iPod perspective, however if I connect directly via USB to my iPhone, I want it in the center console for easier access.

Also, any suggestions on a better, aftermarket USB cord than the standard Apple fire wire?
For USB:
Amazon Amazon



For 3.5mm male:
Amazon Amazon
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2018 | 11:16 AM
  #10  
Pounder's Avatar
Pounder
1/4 mile/AutoX
Supporting Lifetime
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 11,442
Likes: 2,189
From: Buffalo Texas
Default

mine has the tilt face and have no issues, but HATE the Kenwood, will switch to a Pioneer soon !!!! (IMO Pioneer is the go to unit !!!)
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2018 | 12:05 PM
  #11  
MSG C5's Avatar
MSG C5
Thread Starter
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime Gold
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 17,769
Likes: 3,697
From: The Sunshine State
2022 C5 of the Year Finalist - Modified
2021 C5 of the Year Finalist - Modified
C7 of the Year - Modified Finalist 2021
Finalist 2020 C7 of the Year -- Modified
2020 C5 of the Year Finalist - Modified
C5 of Year Finalist (appearance mods) 2019
2018 C5 of Year Finalist
Default

Originally Posted by Pounder
mine has the tilt face and have no issues, but HATE the Kenwood, will switch to a Pioneer soon !!!! (IMO Pioneer is the go to unit !!!)
Thanks. Funny because I'm reading a lot of not-so-great reviews of the Kenwood Car Play units, but my current Kenwood has been good with the exception of the slow touch screen/scrolling response.

I've read good things about Alpine but haven't seen too much on Pioneer. Any specific Pioneer model you recommend?
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2018 | 12:07 PM
  #12  
MSG C5's Avatar
MSG C5
Thread Starter
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime Gold
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 17,769
Likes: 3,697
From: The Sunshine State
2022 C5 of the Year Finalist - Modified
2021 C5 of the Year Finalist - Modified
C7 of the Year - Modified Finalist 2021
Finalist 2020 C7 of the Year -- Modified
2020 C5 of the Year Finalist - Modified
C5 of Year Finalist (appearance mods) 2019
2018 C5 of Year Finalist
Default

Originally Posted by jrprich
Thanks. I was thinking about modding the power connection/lighter port that's located inside the center armrest console and this adapter looks like a fit for that. It would be nice to open the lid and have two USB ports available.

Last edited by MSG C5; Feb 20, 2018 at 12:31 PM.
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2018 | 12:40 PM
  #13  
Pounder's Avatar
Pounder
1/4 mile/AutoX
Supporting Lifetime
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 11,442
Likes: 2,189
From: Buffalo Texas
Default

Originally Posted by MSG C5
Thanks. Funny because I'm reading a lot of not-so-great reviews of the Kenwood Car Play units, but my current Kenwood has been good with the exception of the slow touch screen/scrolling response.

I've read good things about Alpine but haven't seen too much on Pioneer. Any specific Pioneer model you recommend?
I have had top of the line with Nav. (in wife's ZO 6) middle of the line in my GMC, to a low end one in my winter beater (Monte SS) and I love everything about them !!!! I just get the one with the options I want ???? (my Kenwood/ (from DD Mods) takes forever to turn on, done backing up before it comes on, to just crappy features !!!)

Last edited by Pounder; Feb 20, 2018 at 12:43 PM.
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2018 | 03:21 PM
  #14  
unlvrebel's Avatar
unlvrebel
Pro
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 503
Likes: 50
From: Bradenton, FL
Default

Originally Posted by MSG C5
Also, has anyone run the USB connecting cable from the HU under the center console and into the center console armrest? If so, any routing suggestions or tips I should be aware of?

In my current configuration, I have the USB cable connected from the back of the HU and routed into the passenger glove box. That's OK fr6om an iPod perspective, however if I connect directly via USB to my iPhone, I want it in the center console for easier access.

Also, any suggestions on a better, aftermarket USB cord than the standard Apple fire wire?
Originally Posted by jrprich
I've have a 9903 since December of 2016. On the whole, it is a good purchase. I do miss the volume button/dial... I also have routed my USB along the tunnel and into the center console using the above adapter. In the summer months in Florida, I experience only what I can call "skipping" - sort of a lag from the phone, but there isn't a cath up. The phone will continue to play but several seconds of audio will not be processed. I think it is due to the heat generated on the aftermarket Amazon piece. I don't get the same issues in the winter. I have Dynamatted and used Refletix to try to limit the heat. No dice...
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2018 | 03:39 PM
  #15  
MSG C5's Avatar
MSG C5
Thread Starter
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime Gold
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 17,769
Likes: 3,697
From: The Sunshine State
2022 C5 of the Year Finalist - Modified
2021 C5 of the Year Finalist - Modified
C7 of the Year - Modified Finalist 2021
Finalist 2020 C7 of the Year -- Modified
2020 C5 of the Year Finalist - Modified
C5 of Year Finalist (appearance mods) 2019
2018 C5 of Year Finalist
Default

Originally Posted by unlvrebel
I've have a 9903 since December of 2016. On the whole, it is a good purchase. I do miss the volume button/dial... I also have routed my USB along the tunnel and into the center console using the above adapter. In the summer months in Florida, I experience only what I can call "skipping" - sort of a lag from the phone, but there isn't a cath up. The phone will continue to play but several seconds of audio will not be processed. I think it is due to the heat generated on the aftermarket Amazon piece. I don't get the same issues in the winter. I have Dynamatted and used Refletix to try to limit the heat. No dice...
Thanks. That's my main concern about routing via the center console and over the transmission and gear shift tunnel. We all know how hot the center armrest storage area gets. I had a thermal tunnel plate installed when I had my X-pipe installed in addition to a sound deadening kit under the carpet. I will check to see if there is a better, more heat resistant USB audio cable extender on the market.

Last edited by MSG C5; Feb 20, 2018 at 03:40 PM.
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2018 | 04:02 PM
  #16  
ZO6 cracker's Avatar
ZO6 cracker
Melting Slicks
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 2,092
Likes: 1,002
From: Orwigsburg Pa
Default

Originally Posted by MSG C5
Thanks. That's my main concern about routing via the center console and over the transmission and gear shift tunnel. We all know how hot the center armrest storage area gets. I had a thermal tunnel plate installed when I had my X-pipe installed in addition to a sound deadening kit under the carpet. I will check to see if there is a better, more heat resistant USB audio cable extender on the market.
I had my installer run my usb line into the glove box. I just open the box plug it in my phone and sit my phone in my cup holder and close the glove box. Works great!! I hope this helps. I’m in the process of having Apsis wrapping my other double din bezel. Going a different route with colors.
Reply
Old Feb 27, 2018 | 03:34 PM
  #17  
ChrisLSx's Avatar
ChrisLSx
Burning Brakes
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 1,105
Likes: 114
From: Lawrenceburg, KY
Default

Over the past 4 years, I had 3 different Pioneer double dins (in 3 different cars) and every one had issues. All of them had the Bluetooth fail and one had a screen die.

I now have Kenwood double dins (2 different vehicles) and they seem to be working fine. I've only had them for about 3 months so still early, however I had a Kenwood single din units in the past (about 5 years ago) and it were very reliable.

I had Panasonic single dins (20) years ago and they were always good performers as well.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Double Din Head Unit Upgrade Question (Existing)

Old Feb 27, 2018 | 03:58 PM
  #18  
m4bgringo's Avatar
m4bgringo
Advanced
 
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 72
Likes: 6
Default

I ran the USB wire from the head unit to the center console so I can easily get to the USB stick when I want to add/remove songs. Didn't have any issues running it past the 6 spd shifter. I plan on using the magnetic shock switch (will replace it) to switch between a front-mounted camera and the rear camera. One of the things on my to-do list for that car this year when I take it out of storage.
Reply
Old Feb 27, 2018 | 04:51 PM
  #19  
C5SCCA's Avatar
C5SCCA
Pro
15 Year Member
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 607
Likes: 29
From: Tulsa Oklahoma
Default

I have the Kenwood DDX773BH. The tilt does interfere and get caught on the bezel when you open it for a CD. I only use Bluetooth so its not a big deal for me but I do have that probelm. The head unit itself has been great. I am really happy with it.
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2018 | 08:33 PM
  #20  
MSG C5's Avatar
MSG C5
Thread Starter
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime Gold
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 17,769
Likes: 3,697
From: The Sunshine State
2022 C5 of the Year Finalist - Modified
2021 C5 of the Year Finalist - Modified
C7 of the Year - Modified Finalist 2021
Finalist 2020 C7 of the Year -- Modified
2020 C5 of the Year Finalist - Modified
C5 of Year Finalist (appearance mods) 2019
2018 C5 of Year Finalist
Default

Update: I decided on the Kenwood DDX9704S.

Thus far, I'm really happy with the unit. It sounds great and the Apple Car Play is fantastic. The tilt screen for the DVD/CD playback on the DDX9704S works fine with my existing double-din bezel. I routed the USB connections through the center console and then installed a double USB port connection into the center armrest power socket.







Reply




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:17 AM.

story-0
5 Best & 5 Most Overrated Corvette Track Packages of All Time!

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 most overrated Corvette track packages ever.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 12:46:45


VIEW MORE
story-1
Every 2027 Corvette Engine Explained

Slideshow: Every 2027 Corvette engine explained

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 12:16:31


VIEW MORE
story-2
Designer Imagines A Corvette That Looks More Like a Corvette Than the Corvette

Slideshow: A Jaguar designer's personal project imagines what a modern front-engined Corvette might look like if Chevrolet revisited the golden age of the Stingray.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-08 19:53:43


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Corvettes that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 10:34:17


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

A lot of money has changed hands at the online auction house over the years.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-03 10:21:50


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: 10 great gifts Corvette enthusiasts actually want for Father's Day!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:40


VIEW MORE
story-6
8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

Slideshow: These are the quirks, annoyances, and oddly lovable problems that every Corvette owner eventually learns to live with.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 09:31:39


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

Slideshow: 10 reasons why the C6 Z06 is still a performance benchmark after 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 17:20:09


VIEW MORE
story-8
How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

Slideshow: How much horsepower every Corvette engine lost in 1972.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:54:53


VIEW MORE
story-9
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE