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Old Jan 28, 2019 | 12:57 PM
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Ok...I'm installing wide fenders and have been getting quotes $3-$3500to blend paint. I can get the whole car wrapped in matte blue for $2800. Now I dont have to blend and can always go back to stock. I'm also ordered my f14 in gun metal. Can I hear some feedback on the wrap..thanks
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Old Jan 28, 2019 | 01:04 PM
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The two pluses for wraps is they are way less expensive than paint, and if you get sick of a color you can just peel it off. The bad thing is you'll never be able to make a wrap look like paint...
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Old Jan 28, 2019 | 01:45 PM
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The two pluses for wraps is they are way less expensive than paint, and if you get sick of a color you can just peel it off. The bad thing is you'll never be able to make a wrap look like paint...
I think they make glossy wrap? It's just a idea!
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Old Jan 28, 2019 | 01:57 PM
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How long do wraps last?
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Old Jan 28, 2019 | 02:49 PM
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Ive wrapped multiple of my cars multiple times its pretty great being able to pull it off and change up the color any time you'd like, been very seriously debating wrapping mine in 3M Gloss Cosmic Blue, as i'm not happy with the condition of my paint.
Most people will have a pretty hard time telling that it is not paint, any regular non car person will never question it. If you know what to look for then sure you can notice that "orange peel" look in the reflection of it.
One thing for sure though is if your paint is not in perfect condition and not prepped correctly, its going to rip clear coat when you remove it, if you plan to wrap it again after that it will need to be sanded completely smooth or you will see the outline where the clear coat has been removed. Definitely keep up on cleaning it, I left mine in a parking garage for two weeks while I was out of town and the soot / **** in the air literally stained the wrap, couldn't see standing back but if you looked up close there were little dots in it.
Wraps should last 5+ years the longest I left one on for was maybe a year and a half.

Heres a few I had on my 55 swapped C43 AMG (Pictures are a few years old camera phone now, not the highest quality, but you get the idea)

Oracal Gloss Turquoise Lavender -





Avery Gloss Silver Diamond -



Hexis Gloss Vivid Blue

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Old Jan 28, 2019 | 02:54 PM
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3K to paint 2 fenders? Someone is on drugs. I had my front bumper repainted last year for $250.

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3K to paint 2 fenders? Someone is on drugs. I had my front bumper repainted last year for $250.
Pretty sure whoever painted your bumper was the one on drugs.

With base/clear you have to blend to the adjacent panel, for a true honest repair. Especially with metallics and god fobid pearls because you'll never match the concentration of the factory spray when you butt them next to each other, you have to blend it in. So, if someone just painted your bumper...it'd have to require the blend be all on the bumper, which...in theory could be done for 250.00 but, it'd have to be a small spot, or a quick spray job with cheap *** paint. Doesnt' mean it can't turn out, depending on the situation but...250.00 is mega cheap, definitely on the side, no insurance and yeah...prob on some drugs or booze.

Main reason I wrap is because the finish is dead *** consistent, and I don't need the booth to do it anymore. I slowly began putting painting cars on the back burner in 2012-13 and started wrapping more because the options for very difficult finishes comes with a guarantee. Doing a gloss yellow or gloss blue wrap, wastes opportunity in my opinion...go satins or matte's, do something different, even if it's subtle in color, etc. That said though, I just did a 3m Plum Explosion in gloss and I have to say, pics do it NO justice...






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Originally Posted by 04zjimc
Ok...I'm installing wide fenders and have been getting quotes $3-$3500to blend paint. I can get the whole car wrapped in matte blue for $2800. Now I dont have to blend and can always go back to stock. I'm also ordered my f14 in gun metal. Can I hear some feedback on the wrap..thanks
I have no experiences with wraps but I can say $3-$3500 to paint is way too high. I had my hood painted for $500 and it's perfect. So I would expect two rear fenders to be about $1000-$1500. Though, I'm sure location makes a difference.
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Originally Posted by knewblewkorvette
I have no experiences with wraps but I can say $3-$3500 to paint is way too high. I had my hood painted for $500 and it's perfect. So I would expect two rear fenders to be about $1000-$1500. Though, I'm sure location makes a difference.
I called afew shops and they were up there..the shop that quoted me $3500 are alittle high, but I seen there work and they mainly deal with vettes and has lots of experience with these fenders.I looked up a ton of pics of widebody vettes and I will say 90% of them you can tell the difference..it looks like a completed puzzle then you pull 1 piece out...I dont want to see that with my car...

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Originally Posted by knewblewkorvette
I have no experiences with wraps but I can say $3-$3500 to paint is way too high. I had my hood painted for $500 and it's perfect. So I would expect two rear fenders to be about $1000-$1500. Though, I'm sure location makes a difference.
His quote strikes me as, even if he (OP) is bolting on the wide fenders, to include final fitment issues, sanding (mold lines, etc if they exist), prep, primer, re-sand, prep, prep adjacent panels (which includes essentially half the car...portion of roof, door, trunk, rear bumper), then masking, base it all, clear it all, reassemble, etc. Keep in mind also, that blending is more complex than just laying down color, it's got many more stages involved. The liability of a job that big and complex (blending color) certainly adds up to 3k in a professional, insured shop that stands behind their work. Can you find 2k...sure...1k...sure...you're risk is skyrocketing with it though. There are always guys out there who do great side work and can pull it off, I've known a few...been one myself at times...but...that's by no means the rule. The real overall true rule is, you get what you pay for.

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Originally Posted by K.I.T.T.
His quote strikes me as, even if he (OP) is bolting on the wide fenders, to include final fitment issues, sanding (mold lines, etc if they exist), prep, primer, re-sand, prep, prep adjacent panels (which includes essentially half the car...portion of roof, door, trunk, rear bumper), then masking, base it all, clear it all, reassemble, etc. Keep in mind also, that blending is more complex than just laying down color, it's got many more stages involved. The liability of a job that big and complex (blending color) certainly adds up to 3k in a professional, insured shop that stands behind their work. Can you find 2k...sure...1k...sure...you're risk is skyrocketing with it though. There are always guys out there who do great side work and can pull it off, I've known a few...been one myself at times...but...that's by no means the rule. The real overall true rule is, you get what you pay for.
thanks.. that sums it up..also the painter are mention that he uses a gel coating on the fenders and if he has to fit them better he heats up the panel...

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Old Jan 28, 2019 | 10:27 PM
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I just had mine wrapped with an avery product that matched the metallic Nassau blue stock color . two different body shops wanted 8 and $9000.00
to paint. The wrap was 3200, no runs , no orange peel, looks real nice to me
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You can also pay $3500 and get a crap job. I paid $250 for my bumper and it was a perfect match.

My suggestion is discuss with your local Corvette club members and get their opinions on local painters.
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Old Jan 28, 2019 | 11:18 PM
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Wrap over paint any day. Painters are friggin nuts with their very undeserved prices. In 10 years no cars will be painted after the factory. Wrap will become the industry standard.
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Old Jan 29, 2019 | 12:39 AM
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It wont take 10 years. When they told me $9,000 to paint mine I thought the guy was nuts. my Clear coat had blistered. He told me that out here in Cali
a gallon of clear is close to $1000.00 now. This was at one of the better shops in town but I didnt want a maco paint job either
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Old Jan 29, 2019 | 02:20 AM
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You guys are on drugs if you think a wrap will be the new standard. Wrap is garbage compared to paint. GARBAGE.

Not even to think the longevity aspect; the finish on a wrap has a very fake granulated texture. I’ve used very high quality wrap on my own car as well as seeing some pretty high end stuff. If you’re doing a gloss color - forget it.

I can massage traditional paint into glass. You can’t barely get swirl marks out of vynil. Then you have environment to worry about. Go up to a wrapped car sitting for an hour in the summer sun. Look how the surface has basically ‘melted’ into the backing. Poke it with your fingernail and watch it indent immediately. It’s not a hardened surface and it has zero UV protection. The colors like blacks are far from pure; having a browish hue in hard light.

About the ONLY decent surfacing is done through a dipping process; or rather ‘dip’ that is sprayed with a gun, with a two part catalyst and an actual top coat. If you think it sounds a lot like paint to get actual quality then you are correct. Except it cost the same if not more and tears off in chunks. It’s a neat solution that still carries a longevity and cost problem - and certainly isn’t a wrap.

The only way to do something RIGHT is to paint it. I’ve also had quotes that high to blend a metallic because they’ll be disassembling the entire halo, the doors, the hatch and rear bumper to properly blend/ fade in the new color and then re-clear everything. It’s very tedious and intensive of both labor and materials. Thanks to the garbage factory ‘unblendable’ silver; I basically had to fight to JUST panel paint. Otherwise it’d have to be the whole car due to factory mottling.

So yeah, do it correctly and hopefully you have a solid, or at least darker color. Even the solids SHOULD have the full bore blending; but it’s definitely easier to get away without. Should be around $700 or so from a LEGIT place for fenders alone pending body work is minimal.

The vynil guys can enjoy their 5-10 footer instagram builds.

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Old Jan 29, 2019 | 10:23 AM
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The vynil guys can enjoy their 5-10 footer instagram builds.
I just had the roof of my g8 wrapped black, by the best vinyl guys in town, and it doesnt hold a candle at all to a quality paintjob. from 5-10 feet though it looks good
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Originally Posted by 04zjimc
Ok...I'm installing wide fenders and have been getting quotes $3-$3500to blend paint. I can get the whole car wrapped in matte blue for $2800. Now I dont have to blend and can always go back to stock. I'm also ordered my f14 in gun metal. Can I hear some feedback on the wrap..thanks
I had my vet wrapped a year ago, $2000. included the strippes & door jams. Vinyl wraps will last more than five years if its taken care of, garaged kept and cleaned properly.
There are hundreds of colors and textures. Don't shop by price, shop around for a pro. many clam to be. google vinyl wraps, tons of videos.


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Old Jan 29, 2019 | 02:32 PM
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I had my vet wrapped a year ago, $2000. included the strippes & door jams. Vinyl wraps will last more than five years if its taken care of, garaged kept and cleaned properly.
There are hundreds of colors and textures. Don't shop by price, shop around for a pro. many clam to be. google vinyl wraps, tons of videos.


wow that looks great! I love the idea of a wrap..especially in my case..if i dont have to touch my original paint i'm a happy man! What do you use to give it a shine?
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The other day I was in one of the performance shop I visit and some kid had a BWM with some new product that was peellable like a Plasti dip, but this was a two part system and right next to it it looked like a good paint job. It was some crazy orange color with a clear coat. Looks nothing like Plastidip. Super high gloss finish. I need to find out the name of it. Anybody else heard of such a thing?
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