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I’m not impressed with the C8. A nice C5 compared to the C8 for 70K?
As far as the appearance goes, I think they went WAY wrong.
The front is way too high, not aerodynamic looking at all.
After only 5 people in the audience at the introduction clapped,
the presenter went and hid under the car.
As far as the appearance goes, I think they went WAY wrong.
The front is way too high, not aerodynamic looking at all.
After only 5 people in the audience at the introduction clapped,
the presenter went and hid under the car.
A mint C5 isn't even in the same solar system as a brand new C8. It's literally a apples to oranges comparison here. If offered a C8, I wouldn't be able to dump the C5 fast enough. 500hp, DCT, Mid-Rear engine vs a recycled canoe with interior panel gaps you can lose a whole roll of quarters in?
The loss of the manual is a bit of a downer but at least GM actually put a proper DCT in and not some POS torque converter automatic. The Auto in the C7Z was a joke. GM and CorvetteForums all claimed it was as fast as the PDK/DCT but honest to god that transmission would not grab gears when you needed it to on the track. A DCT is a bit dim on the street and in traffic, but quite fun in manual mode; not as involving as a true manual but still a lot of fun to grab gears like you're driving a car with a proper race transmission.
Moving the engine mid-rear was necessary for handling, cooling, and future drive-train purposes. The C7 basically used a recycled C5/C6 chassis- and while 650-750hp is great for bragging rights and drag racing, these cars really struggled to put the power down efficiently; it was way way easier to drive the C7 GS harder than the C7Z. The C8 chassis also means- potentially- an awd and/or hybrid drive-train. And I know the C5 section is miserably stubborn with AWD and electric motors (because V8 MODOR MORE SOUND NICE)- but the performance those systems open up for the Corvette would be incredible. And the fact is, the Corvette is going to need to be a hybrid sports car in the very near future- which isn't a bad thing performance wise (1000hp+ Hybrid super cars are a thing and they make mince meat out of our cars). How a car performs is more important than the exhaust sound anyways.
All in, I'm very happy with the C8. I can't wait for the higher performance versions (GS, Z06, ZR1...). If you think about it, the C8 is probably as big of a revolutionary step for Corvette as the C5 was when it came out.
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I like the new design of the C8. I will have one someday I hope, maybe have to retire first though. I also think the new design will attract a whole new group of people into the fold, and maybe get some others back who have been absent for a while again. I plan on keeping my C5 forever also.
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I’m not impressed with the C8. A nice C5 compared to the C8 for 70K?
As far as the appearance goes, I think they went WAY wrong.
The front is way too high, not aerodynamic looking at all.
After only 5 people in the audience at the introduction clapped,
the presenter went and hid under the car.
As far as the appearance goes, I think they went WAY wrong.
The front is way too high, not aerodynamic looking at all.
After only 5 people in the audience at the introduction clapped,
the presenter went and hid under the car.
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If someone doesn’t think that car looks absolutely amazing for $60k, you’re fooling yourself. Hopefully the z06 has 750hp, and the zr1 850hp with butterfly doors.
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Yes, but sadly, I don't play golf anymore. No Corvette has more useable cargo space than a C5 coupe - I only have to rent a pick-up truck maybe once every 2 years. I am always transporting large picture frames, etc. - I can't do that with a C8, but golf clubs - no problem.
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The new C8 looks awesome overall to me and I would love to add one to my garage; however...
• It would be a waste of money where I live as the streets are now too dangerous to even drive on.
• I can already feel the anxiety I would have pulling it in to the Dealership for warranty work next to all the mud-covered pick-up trucks locally - not to mention the stunned look on the tech's face with something he has never seen before.
• They priced me out of the game (after 10 new Corvettes in the past) - after some options, TTL, Insurance, etc. it would be twice what I paid for my C5 new in 2001 and I have not doubled my income since then sadly.
That said, if I had money to burn, I would be all over it!
• It would be a waste of money where I live as the streets are now too dangerous to even drive on.
• I can already feel the anxiety I would have pulling it in to the Dealership for warranty work next to all the mud-covered pick-up trucks locally - not to mention the stunned look on the tech's face with something he has never seen before.
• They priced me out of the game (after 10 new Corvettes in the past) - after some options, TTL, Insurance, etc. it would be twice what I paid for my C5 new in 2001 and I have not doubled my income since then sadly.
That said, if I had money to burn, I would be all over it!
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The C8 has too many edges. I like curves.
It's a cool car to be certain but it does appear to take away one important feature of my C5 - The ability, when cruising, to rest my right hand, lightly, upon milady's knee.
It's a cool car to be certain but it does appear to take away one important feature of my C5 - The ability, when cruising, to rest my right hand, lightly, upon milady's knee.
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I like the C8 quite a bit. More than I liked the C7 when it came out. I don't see it having a lot of effect on C5 prices though.
As far as comparing the two, they are very different vehicles, and a comparison doesn't make much sense.
As far as comparing the two, they are very different vehicles, and a comparison doesn't make much sense.
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I'll second you on the price of a '99. I have the window sticker for my '99 6m vert. Same ball park price as yours. I'm frankly amazed that GM can put out the C8, even though a base model, for the price they have quoted.
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I LOVE my Twin Turbo C5. It was my first Corvette, and I missed it so bad after selling it that I ended up buying it back about 4 1/2 years later. That said..........I'm already contemplating parting with it in 1-2 years and going C8. I loved almost everything of what I saw last night.
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I LOVE my Twin Turbo C5. It was my first Corvette, and I missed it so bad after selling it that I ended up buying it back about 4 1/2 years later. That said..........I'm already contemplating parting with it in 1-2 years and going C8. I loved almost everything of what I saw last night.
I want to see how the trim levels, pricing, tuning workarounds, warranty repairs, etc., pan out but I'm excited to see how it goes... if that all goes well and depending where I am in a few years I just might get rid of the old c5z
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The C 8 will be just as timeless in 20 years as my 98 is now and my 66s were in their time. Some will like them some will not, but they are all Corvettes. JR-01-- I presume you never took a trip in a 66 vert with the top down and believed you could take lots of luggage with you for a 2 week trip along the east coast, not possible! But we enjoyed many trips in mine just pack light, and NO golf clubs fit in it unless you folded them and left the bag at home. My 98 coupe trips well with lots of room compared to the 66. The C8 has me thinking about all the good things, storage both front and rear,so that means top off and still have place to put luggage. Although I know many never take the top off the classic or get it wet, mine has been in the rain with the top off after all it is twenty years old has not melted and still looks like it rolled off the showroom floor, just over 66k and well loved miles.The price of under 60k may just make a place in my garage right beside my 98.
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What we have seen is impressive but what we haven't seen is what owners think of them.
We haven't seen any potential down-sides and every car has them.
What will it be like to work on or have it worked on after the warranty.
For instance: Would you have to drop the entire rear suspension and engine to change engine accessories or spark plugs?
How hard would it be to change the alternator etc...
I haven't heard any news about a convertible option.
We haven't seen any potential down-sides and every car has them.
What will it be like to work on or have it worked on after the warranty.
For instance: Would you have to drop the entire rear suspension and engine to change engine accessories or spark plugs?
How hard would it be to change the alternator etc...
I haven't heard any news about a convertible option.
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OK, so I've spent the last day looking at a ton of pics of the new C8 and this where I am on this. Just personal opinion of course and not trying to sway anyone. For my eyes, the side view is really appealing. I do not care for the rear end at all. The front shots are doing better than the rear but not by much. What is going on with all the egg crate treatments? Overdone I think. Just plain do not care for the interior layout, It looks awfully cramped. Maybe some of my feelings will change when I have a chance to see the C8 in person.. Maybe younger Corvette enthusiasts see it differently but I'm 69 and maybe not as attuned to the radical change as younger folks. Once again I must say that I'm mystified on how GM can offer the C8 starting in the 60K range. As I mentioned above in an earlier post my '99 6m vert was in the low 50's in 1999. When you figure in 20 years of the dollar having lost about 40% of its value from around year 2000 to the present, around 2% per year, I would think the base price would be substantially higher. Anyway, just the musings and thoughts of an older Corvette enthusiast. Best wishes to all!
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