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Old Nov 6, 2019 | 11:37 AM
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I noticed that at an idle, the one on my engine seems to wobble a bit. With the engine off, I cannot wiggle it with hand pressure. Is this an easy fix?
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Old Nov 6, 2019 | 11:52 AM
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Do a quick search for "balancer wobble" and you'll find tons of information. Its a pretty common and well-known issue

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Old Nov 6, 2019 | 12:56 PM
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In one word, No.

It is not easy. It is time consuming and requires a few special tools. If you're used to wrenching on cars, it's just another big job. If you're new to it, it's a fairly big undertaking.
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Old Nov 6, 2019 | 01:08 PM
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I read the thread on changing one out and it is more than I will attempt in my gravel driveway. That one is going to the shop...…

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Old Nov 6, 2019 | 02:17 PM
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Do yourself a favor and DO NOT replace the balancer with another GM balancer. Buy a Dayco PB1117N for about $75 and a Genuine GM bolt for $10. Labor should run you about $500-$600. I just had mine done a few months ago. I also replaced my water pump and both belts while it was apart. Don't forget to buy the seal that's behind the balancer (Timken 100470 $20) Cheers!

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Old Nov 6, 2019 | 02:41 PM
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Thanks! Have read that in several of the posts on the subject.....
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Old Nov 6, 2019 | 02:51 PM
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I have read that SOME wobble is acceptable, but how do you know when it is unacceptable?
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Old Nov 6, 2019 | 04:32 PM
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According to my go-to-mechanic, if it is wobbling, it is not if, but when it will fail and do damage. Mine had a small wobble at 42K so I had it done with a ATI this week and picking car up tomorrow.
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I had a slight wobble and had it done 6 months after I bought the car. (My Winter project)
Severe wobble needs to be done ASAP
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I am taking it to my go to guy on Saturday for advice on fix now or later.
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I just had this done last week, like you it was more than I wanted to dig into in the garage. I had a local shop handle it, total was about $800 and change to get it done. Well worth it. And yes, a wobble means it has ALREADY failed, just not catastrophically yet. Get it done very soon.
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Guess I am lucky, just finished an 800 mile trip it could have let go on....
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I read the thread on changing one out and it is more than I will attempt in my gravel driveway. That one is going to the shop...…

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Here is how you diagnose for sure.
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Good idea in the video there.
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I used some white nail polish on mine and put a few lines across the balancer. That was several years ago, and the lines have not moved.

Mine does wobble, but it has since I got the car. It hasn’t gotten any worse, so I make it a point to keep an eye on it.
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I have owned numerous cars and have never had to replace this component. Are GM/Chevy such a low quality product that these seem to be a common replacement??
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I have owned numerous cars and have never had to replace this component. Are GM/Chevy such a low quality product that these seem to be a common replacement??


Look, you've got 2 heavy steel parts joined by some vulcanized rubber. Over time, it's gonna fail, that's life. The reason they fail is the amount of force applied when each cylinder fires and causes a massive amount of torque that the damper has to absorb. Now, if you're driving some 160hp 4cyl shitbox, no, that balancer doesn't have to do do lot so it's unlikely to fail. But on an engine where torque numbers are where these ls engines are, yes, the balancer is a wear component and it'll fail. Suck it up and replace it.

Here's the cliffs: Add more HP, more **** breaks. It's the price you pay.
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Look, you've got 2 heavy steel parts joined by some vulcanized rubber. Over time, it's gonna fail, that's life. The reason they fail is the amount of force applied when each cylinder fires and causes a massive amount of torque that the damper has to absorb. Now, if you're driving some 160hp 4cyl shitbox, no, that balancer doesn't have to do do lot so it's unlikely to fail. But on an engine where torque numbers are where these ls engines are, yes, the balancer is a wear component and it'll fail. Suck it up and replace it.

Here's the cliffs: Add more HP, more **** breaks. It's the price you pay.
It is mostly time, NOT force , that makes the rubber between the 2 parts of the balancer deteriorate.....if you sat a new GM balancer on a shelf or in a car w/o driving it for approx. 10+ years, the rubber would deteriorate with no force being applied.....that is my understanding...ask ET.....he can give you the explanation of this, as can many other engineers on this forum...( I trust ET's judgement and knowledge on MOST subjects that are not political) I am just going by what i have read from reliable sources....
Disclaimer....if my sources are incorrect then i am incorrect...i will not take any blame for my above statement/s because i am a coward
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