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Old Mar 1, 2020 | 09:57 AM
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I'm guessing Radioflyer's as in his description he says front and rears from Radioflyer. Just an educated guess Though not cheap, probably the best out there.

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[QUOTE=knewblewkorvette;1601045242]I'm guessing Radioflyer's as in his description he says front and rears from Radioflyer. Just an educated guess Though not cheap, probably the best out there.

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Yes from Radioflyer.

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Old Mar 1, 2020 | 12:35 PM
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Everyone wants to buy the lowest they can, and sell the highest they can. That's human nature, dealer, private person, whatever.

With trading it in to a dealer, there's a sales tax advantage in most states, and you don't have to deal with every 22 year old who just got a part time job wanting to test drive it and offer you half of asking price.
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Old Mar 1, 2020 | 12:39 PM
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I’ve routinely found that cars and parts for sale on this forum carry a premium. Mainly because it’s an enthusiast site and the seller always thinks what they have is worth more than it is. Even services offered on this site are outrageous. For example, there is a vendor selling powdercoated calipers. Easy call to a local place saved me about $600.

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Originally Posted by FAUEE
Everyone wants to buy the lowest they can, and sell the highest they can. That's human nature, dealer, private person, whatever.

With trading it in to a dealer, there's a sales tax advantage in most states, and you don't have to deal with every 22 year old who just got a part time job wanting to test drive it and offer you half of asking price.
Absolutely. Last night went to look at a 2017 GS 2LT at a dealer, they offered 13.7k for trade in which would have also saved me another $860 in sales tax. They would also give me a nice interest rate on financing (800 equifax score). So yeah sometimes the convenience is worth it.
But they wanted way too much for the car and they wouldn’t budge.

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First rule when you go to a dealer: Never mention that you might have a car you want to trade in. Only mention it once the dealer give you his final price.
Who wants it least always wins. Best of luck with your search.
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Originally Posted by laurent_zo6
First rule when you go to a dealer: Never mention that you might have a car you want to trade in. Only mention it once the dealer give you his final price.
Who wants it least always wins. Best of luck with your search.

lol. This is a myth. Dealer is always 2 steps ahead of you.
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lol. This is a myth. Dealer is always 2 steps ahead of you.
Never met a dealer who was a mind reader but met many who were begging me at the end of the month to make their quota. That's after I checked how much they were making on each car. Bonuses and other incentives included. Tell me who was ahead of whom?
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Originally Posted by ljorges
Absolutely. Last night went to look at a 2017 GS 2LT at a dealer, they offered 13.7k for trade in which would have also saved me another $860 in sales tax. They would also give me a nice interest rate on financing (800 equifax score). So yeah sometimes the convenience is worth it.
But they wanted way too much for the car and they wouldn’t budge.
Don't know what area, or what your sales tax base is, but remember IL will only give you a sales tax credit up to $10K. Anything above that you won't be receiving any additional credit. If your car was stock then I would start at $21K and go from there. This is based on asking prices I have seen in our area and dealer asking prices, the manual is the plus. I had a difficult time finding a manual in our area. However, you are probably aware, the mods may hurt you a bit because it knocks some buyers out. I would agree, start at $20K and expect about $17-18K. Don't think you will have too hard a time when spring hits our area.
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Originally Posted by laurent_zo6
Never met a dealer who was a mind reader but met many who were begging me at the end of the month to make their quota. That's after I checked how much they were making on each car. Bonuses and other incentives included. Tell me who was ahead of whom?
As an actual dealer, I can tell you if you knew the real answer to all that information...you knew more than 99% of the dealership employees including the dealer much of the time. The real answer is not found on the internet for much of it.
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Yeah. That was what I’d save on that initial 10K.

Sounds like good advice.

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Dealer has to make their quota!
Always buy at the end of the month!
Don’t tell them you have a trade in!
Always be willing to get up and walk out!
Talk to the manager!

All myths. And you’ve learned these things from your grandpa.
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Originally Posted by Hoganryan40
Dealer has to make their quota!
Always buy at the end of the month!
Don’t tell them you have a trade in!
Always be willing to get up and walk out!
Talk to the manager!

All myths. And you’ve learned these things from your grandpa.
What’s the myth on #4?
The dealer doesn’t care if you walk out?

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Originally Posted by ljorges
What’s the myth on #4?
The dealer doesn’t care if you walk out?

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ask your grandpa.
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Originally Posted by JALLEN4
As an actual dealer, I can tell you if you knew the real answer to all that information...you knew more than 99% of the dealership employees including the dealer much of the time. The real answer is not found on the internet for much of it.
I never said the info was on the internet. Are you saying that you deal with a client without knowing your cost?​​​​​​
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Originally Posted by Hoganryan40
Dealer has to make their quota!
Always buy at the end of the month!
Don’t tell them you have a trade in!
Always be willing to get up and walk out!
Talk to the manager!

All myths. And you’ve learned these things from your grandpa.
Oh wise one, you mean that if a dealer never meets his monthly quota the manufacturer is not going to be cutting back on the incoming inventory?
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Originally Posted by laurent_zo6
I never said the info was on the internet. Are you saying that you deal with a client without knowing your cost?​​​​​​
Absolutely...but we had customers not clients...car dealers aren't that fancy.

Whether we are going to sell the car or not isn't dependent on the last $100. A very limited number of folks need to know the true bottom line...mostly accountants. I didn't follow the last dollar because that was what I paid others for. If you are doing it for a living, you are much more worried about what you "should" get for the car instead of the last penny. The last penny was not anyone's business unless they wanted to buy me out.

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Originally Posted by laurent_zo6
Oh wise one, you mean that if a dealer never meets his monthly quota the manufacturer is not going to be cutting back on the incoming inventory?
Forty years as a dealer and I never had a monthly "quota". I gave my people... salesmen, sales managers...a goal or they gave me a goal, but no quotas. The manufacturer does not give out "quotas". They might give you an objective for a contest upon occasion but not a monthly quota.

Dealers are judged performance wise by a far more sophisticated method based on market responsibility and penetration compared to National averages and State averages. Things like pump-ins and pump-outs are part of that equation with a very strong emphasis on your Customer Satisfaction Index. The dealer has far more pressure 99% of the time about taking more cars...not cutting incoming inventory.

I have though sold a Hell of a lot of cars convincing folks that this is a once in a life-time deal so I could hit my "Quota"!
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Originally Posted by Hoganryan40
the truth hurts. It’s easy to track asking prices. Harder to track sold prices. 12k is about right. The Dow is bombing. Market correction. Not many people are dropping 20k on a c5.
Market went back up today so I guess its worth more today?
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