why did Chevrolet do these things?
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From: Frederick Colorado
why did Chevrolet do these things?
1. Use a lube that dissolves rubber bumpers in the seat tracks... they must have known by 2001 that they had a problem.
2. Have such a weird grounding system with no dielectric grease.
3. Make the sunvisors out of warm spit and twigs.
4. Construct everything from the worst plastic known to men, that would shatter like Tiffany glass whenever you touched it or spoke harshly to it.
Can someone please explain why our $50k boutique sportscars were built like Cavaliers?
2. Have such a weird grounding system with no dielectric grease.
3. Make the sunvisors out of warm spit and twigs.
4. Construct everything from the worst plastic known to men, that would shatter like Tiffany glass whenever you touched it or spoke harshly to it.
Can someone please explain why our $50k boutique sportscars were built like Cavaliers?
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I am new in corvette world, only 2 years,
can you pleae name a vehicle that is 1997 and was better made ?
I have owned over 8 BMWs 4 of them M3,
e36, e46,
terrible quality.
why did my Ferrari f430 broke a transmission at 9000 miles ? Because it’s piece of S....
if I list the problems with other automakers, you will start to warship the corvette.
corvette is by far the most reliable true sports car I have seen so far.
can you pleae name a vehicle that is 1997 and was better made ?
I have owned over 8 BMWs 4 of them M3,
e36, e46,
terrible quality.
why did my Ferrari f430 broke a transmission at 9000 miles ? Because it’s piece of S....
if I list the problems with other automakers, you will start to warship the corvette.
corvette is by far the most reliable true sports car I have seen so far.
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It's right in your thread title. Starts with C.
While they may be beloved Corvettes, in the end they are still just a Chevy.
While they may be beloved Corvettes, in the end they are still just a Chevy.
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Cars made by other manufacturers that weren't 50k in 1997 have better quality plastics and better engineering for durability.
Riddle me this: why do the M6 cars strip out their reverse gears? Why did Chevy design a manual transmission that shifts like a tractor, grinds gears and is slower to shift that an automatic of the same period? My M6 routinely embarrasses me by popping out of gear in reverse and grinding. Lots of folks fixed the problem by installing a washer on one of the shift linkages... why didn't Chevy fix this problem the first or second year the car came out?
Riddle me this: why do the M6 cars strip out their reverse gears? Why did Chevy design a manual transmission that shifts like a tractor, grinds gears and is slower to shift that an automatic of the same period? My M6 routinely embarrasses me by popping out of gear in reverse and grinding. Lots of folks fixed the problem by installing a washer on one of the shift linkages... why didn't Chevy fix this problem the first or second year the car came out?
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Cars made by other manufacturers that weren't 50k in 1997 have better quality plastics and better engineering for durability.
Riddle me this: why do the M6 cars strip out their reverse gears? Why did Chevy design a manual transmission that shifts like a tractor, grinds gears and is slower to shift that an automatic of the same period? My M6 routinely embarrasses me by popping out of gear in reverse and grinding. Lots of folks fixed the problem by installing a washer on one of the shift linkages... why didn't Chevy fix this problem the first or second year the car came out?
Riddle me this: why do the M6 cars strip out their reverse gears? Why did Chevy design a manual transmission that shifts like a tractor, grinds gears and is slower to shift that an automatic of the same period? My M6 routinely embarrasses me by popping out of gear in reverse and grinding. Lots of folks fixed the problem by installing a washer on one of the shift linkages... why didn't Chevy fix this problem the first or second year the car came out?
See that brass ring? That’s your reverse syncro.
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for what it's worth BMW used the exact same setup in their seat tracks and have the same issue ????
four C 5's and have had few issues for the most part, all manuals and with a MGW shifter, NO ISSUES with shifting ????
four C 5's and have had few issues for the most part, all manuals and with a MGW shifter, NO ISSUES with shifting ????
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the transmissions are also from Tremec, not GM... I get where you're coming from but that doesn't stop me from liking my car
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I am new in corvette world, only 2 years,
can you pleae name a vehicle that is 1997 and was better made ?
I have owned over 8 BMWs 4 of them M3,
e36, e46,
terrible quality.
why did my Ferrari f430 broke a transmission at 9000 miles ? Because it’s piece of S....
if I list the problems with other automakers, you will start to warship the corvette.
corvette is by far the most reliable true sports car I have seen so far.
can you pleae name a vehicle that is 1997 and was better made ?
I have owned over 8 BMWs 4 of them M3,
e36, e46,
terrible quality.
why did my Ferrari f430 broke a transmission at 9000 miles ? Because it’s piece of S....
if I list the problems with other automakers, you will start to warship the corvette.
corvette is by far the most reliable true sports car I have seen so far.
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Even better, my Z06 has 70k miles and after disassembling the T56, it turns out the reverse synchro slider had already been flipped! That means this transmission was opened up, and had the reverse issue fixed previously.
It's amazing that Chevy allowed this...
In any case I totally understand that we shouldn't have to be the ones fixing glaring design flaws.
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I am new in corvette world, only 2 years,
can you pleae name a vehicle that is 1997 and was better made ?
I have owned over 8 BMWs 4 of them M3,
e36, e46,
terrible quality.
why did my Ferrari f430 broke a transmission at 9000 miles ? Because it’s piece of S....
if I list the problems with other automakers, you will start to warship the corvette.
corvette is by far the most reliable true sports car I have seen so far.
can you pleae name a vehicle that is 1997 and was better made ?
I have owned over 8 BMWs 4 of them M3,
e36, e46,
terrible quality.
why did my Ferrari f430 broke a transmission at 9000 miles ? Because it’s piece of S....
if I list the problems with other automakers, you will start to warship the corvette.
corvette is by far the most reliable true sports car I have seen so far.
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I have an early build '98. Had it from new. It will be 23 years old in July. I've had none of the problems the OP refers to. Chevy did make a mistake in not setting oil change intervals for the M6. When I changed the fluid in mine at about 60k, two surprises - what came out was way, way less than should have been in there, despite zero oil leaks - never ever had a drop under the car on my garage floor. And when I put new oil in - just regular Valvoline, nothing overpriced or "boutique", I was rewarded with much lighter shifts, even with the shorter throws of a modded shifter (cut down Chevy, not aftermarket). Having the proper amount of fluid in there is a good idea.
No problems with sun visors, no shattering plastic, etc.
Were C5's built to a price? Of course. They had to hit a price point GM thought they could sell them at - that's how the industry works. If they had ben any more expensive (including being ripped off for the "extra cost" M6 tranny), I for one would not have bought one.
No problems with sun visors, no shattering plastic, etc.
Were C5's built to a price? Of course. They had to hit a price point GM thought they could sell them at - that's how the industry works. If they had ben any more expensive (including being ripped off for the "extra cost" M6 tranny), I for one would not have bought one.
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I am new in corvette world, only 2 years,
can you pleae name a vehicle that is 1997 and was better made ?
I have owned over 8 BMWs 4 of them M3,
e36, e46,
terrible quality.
why did my Ferrari f430 broke a transmission at 9000 miles ? Because it’s piece of S....
if I list the problems with other automakers, you will start to warship the corvette.
corvette is by far the most reliable true sports car I have seen so far.
can you pleae name a vehicle that is 1997 and was better made ?
I have owned over 8 BMWs 4 of them M3,
e36, e46,
terrible quality.
why did my Ferrari f430 broke a transmission at 9000 miles ? Because it’s piece of S....
if I list the problems with other automakers, you will start to warship the corvette.
corvette is by far the most reliable true sports car I have seen so far.
p.s. Ferraris are not exactly known for Japanese levels of reliability. Never buy one unless you have very deep pockets. If you want the full effect, buy one with the belt driven cams - belt changing is often and incredibly expensive - an engine out job..
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dashboard cracking on bmw is called quality?
headliner sagging is quality?
Seats 90% of them fail is that better interior ?
all the switches discolor Within the first 3 years.
Honesly as much as people complain about c5 interior, it’s still better in many ways.
I am happy with my c5 interior.
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I had to LOL at the T56 comment. GM didn't develop the T56 transmission. It was brought out by Borg Warner and initially debited in the 1992 Viper. GM cheaper out on shift forks and other things, but they didn't develop the trans. The T56 is a great transmission too, and just FYI, no gated manual is going to shift after than an automatic.
Anything listed here? Cost effectiveness. Plain and simple. Corners cut to keep a world class sports car in the working class budget, plain and simple.
Anything listed here? Cost effectiveness. Plain and simple. Corners cut to keep a world class sports car in the working class budget, plain and simple.