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Difference between borla straight pipe and a muffler delete?
a borla straight pipe is basically just a muffler delete right? would the sound be different between those and just a regular muffler delete? whats the difference?
Yup, why attract attention to yourself and give LEO a reason to give you a ticket for excessive noise? I run with Borla Type S Stingers, which came with my car when I bought it. They're somewhat loud, but not obnoxious.
Yup, why attract attention to yourself and give LEO a reason to give you a ticket for excessive noise? I run with Borla Type S Stingers, which came with my car when I bought it. They're somewhat loud, but not obnoxious.
loud cars are common where i live they dont really give out tickets for that here. i have a friend with VERY loud tomei exhaust and they haven't been stopped in the 3 years they've had it. i kind of want to just be young and loud for now until i decide to spend the 1,000 dollars on an axleback. I'm trying to decide right now which route i want to go.
Sure is. Some guys enjoy the sound of straight piped yee yee trucks and purposefully annoying their neighbors for no functional benefit.
That's how Borla captured the market.
Right up there with cat deletes on new cars. Screw the environment for 2 horsepower!
There's a guy near me who straight piped his Civic. Every time he goes by (which is inevitably at WOT, because of course it is) I want to scream at him, it's people like you that caused everyone to hate Hondas. A decent sounding exhaust and some driving manners goes a long way.
Last edited by MikeyMcFly; Jul 7, 2020 at 07:47 PM.
Right up there with cat deletes on new cars. Screw the environment for 2 horsepower!
There's a guy near me who straight piped his Civic. Every time he goes by (which is inevitably at WOT, because of course it is) I want to scream at him, it's people like you that caused everyone to hate Hondas. A decent sounding exhaust and some driving manners goes a long way.
Yeah I don't get the cat delete thing either. I'm in Florida - we have no emissions testing. I'm under 30. All of my cars have cats. None of them have stock exhaust.
Right up there with cat deletes on new cars. Screw the environment for 2 horsepower!
There's a guy near me who straight piped his Civic. Every time he goes by (which is inevitably at WOT, because of course it is) I want to scream at him, it's people like you that caused everyone to hate Hondas. A decent sounding exhaust and some driving manners goes a long way.
Yeah, this idiots also have to keep it in the power band all the time rather than just upshift so it really is like a lawn mower or a weed whacker at full tilt. Infuriating.
Yup, why attract attention to yourself and give LEO a reason to give you a ticket for excessive noise? I run with Borla Type S Stingers, which came with my car when I bought it. They're somewhat loud, but not obnoxious.
I have the Borla S type classic too, with an X-pipe. Good deep exhaust tone but not obnoxiously loud. Best money I've spent on the car.
It came with stock mufflers and remote controlled QTP exhaust cutouts, which made it sound like an old pickup truck or motorboat.
OP: I'd listen to a C5 with straight pipes before you commit. I think the stingers with x-pipe sound way better than the open exhaust did on my car.
X-Pipe and Borla S-Type single exits here. Axle back was $650. Fairly loud when you're on it, but mellow and not droney when cruising. You'll get tired of the straight pipe things real fast, especially when/if you start making other mods to the car like a cam swap.
To answer the OP's question...there's not a significant difference between a muffler delete and a Borla straight pipe. It is your car, and your choice what you want to do with it. However, I will echo what others have said about it probably not being the best choice. Regardless of if you get a ticket for it, having an open exhaust is not considerate to those who are forced to hear it. I suspect that you yourself will actually get tired of it sooner rather than later.
Last edited by MWWarlord; Jul 8, 2020 at 06:32 PM.
a borla straight pipe is basically just a muffler delete right? would the sound be different between those and just a regular muffler delete? whats the difference?
There is a minimal audible difference between a muffler delete "straight pipe" and a straight through axle back like the Borla Stingers or SLP Loudmouths. There are some subtle differences at idle and partial throttle but at WOT you won't here a difference. That said, I have the SLP Loudmouths on my FRC and love them. They are rowdy and obnoxious under WOT but reasonable for just putting around at idle or just above and cruising through the mega mart parking lot.. If you want obnoxious ALL THE TIME just run a set of long pipe headers and do a turn down at the collector...THAT IS LOUD AND OBNOXIOUS. (Actually, I would do that if I could because I LOVE that sound) There are plenty of folks on here that will disagree with me...and that's your opinion and you are welcome to it. Anyways, good luck with your choice of exhaust and have fun!
The SLP Loudmouths are a straight pipe. The Borla Stingers at least have an apology for a muffler in the run.
I have a neighbor with a C7. When he starts it, it apparently has the bypasses open because it starts with a very loud "bark" and them immediately quietens down. What's the point? Except to PO his neighbors of course.
I think I grew out of loud exhausts (and similar LEO attracting add ons) when I was about 19 years old.
Yeah, this idiots also have to keep it in the power band all the time rather than just upshift so it really is like a lawn mower or a weed whacker at full tilt. Infuriating.
The frustrating thing is I cut my teeth in the Honda world. There are plenty of good sounding systems out there (yes, I’m aware in this crowd most will argue no Honda sounds good, but I digress) but they’re pricey relative to the cheap systems. I had a higher end catback and a higher end cold air intake on my old Accord (slow but with wide sticky tires, chassis bracing and adjustable dampers it handled great and could hang in the twisties with cars having double the power) and my intake was louder than the exhaust. I never needed to keep the revs up unless I was screwing around.
It’s the $80 muffler on EBay on crushbent piping guys that ruin it for everyone. They’re the same ones that rev the **** out of the car just to get it to move. The car will get through a residential neighborhood quite alright without having to shift above 3,000, trust me.
The frustrating thing is I cut my teeth in the Honda world. There are plenty of good sounding systems out there (yes, I’m aware in this crowd most will argue no Honda sounds good, but I digress) but they’re pricey relative to the cheap systems. I had a higher end catback and a higher end cold air intake on my old Accord (slow but with wide sticky tires, chassis bracing and adjustable dampers it handled great and could hang in the twisties with cars having double the power) and my intake was louder than the exhaust. I never needed to keep the revs up unless I was screwing around.
It’s the $80 muffler on EBay on crushbent piping guys that ruin it for everyone. They’re the same ones that rev the **** out of the car just to get it to move. The car will get through a residential neighborhood quite alright without having to shift above 3,000, trust me.
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You're not wrong. lol I had an EK Civic as a daily in 2015 - it was traded in by an older guy and it had a Borla catback on it. It sounded genuinely good.
I had a friend of mine build a custom straight out the back exhaust just like the Borla and I love it. Not crazy loud, doesn’t drone when driving around normal. Is only loud when I’m in it and even then it doesn’t get the whole clap noise that rednecks in trucks get when they straight pipe. I have headers and xpipe on the way and will see how much louder it is then but im sure I’ll be fine with it
I tried it on my mostly tracked z06 before it got the race motor. I felt like it lost some Mid range power and the drone driving home from the track at 1800rpms was pure torture.
a borla straight pipe is basically just a muffler delete right? would the sound be different between those and just a regular muffler delete? whats the difference?
One will give you a headache in 5 minutes, the other 10 minutes. Unless you're 23 yo and just don't care.