Push start button ⚠️
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From: Orlando Florida
"Everything old is new again"?
I had push button start on my 59 GMC pickup, and on my 64 Austin Mini. Of course, the GMC was on the floorboard, and you stomped it with your boot, and the Mini was between the seats...
I do not see the point on current cars, probably due to having had them in the long ago past.
I had push button start on my 59 GMC pickup, and on my 64 Austin Mini. Of course, the GMC was on the floorboard, and you stomped it with your boot, and the Mini was between the seats...
I do not see the point on current cars, probably due to having had them in the long ago past.
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I have a push button system that I picked up about a year ago. However, I have yet to install it. It is possible to make them with a solid state relay. The one I purchased also allows for PKE.
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There is a proper push button and then there is a cheaper push button. Cheap way is wiring a push button off relays but you still need the key for VATS and column unlocking. Also, how do you get in the car if the FOB doesn't work? You need the key to unlock the door anyways.
Expensive way is integrating a system that unlocks column, senses a key fob via bluetooth and removes the key all together.
For the hassle of installing the full system, I'd simply find a low mile ignition key switch and replace your worn one in under 30min. I'm not usually a fan of adding complexity.
Expensive way is integrating a system that unlocks column, senses a key fob via bluetooth and removes the key all together.
For the hassle of installing the full system, I'd simply find a low mile ignition key switch and replace your worn one in under 30min. I'm not usually a fan of adding complexity.
Last edited by smitty2919; Feb 14, 2022 at 12:23 PM.
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Yeah, I have the VATS bypass, and everything to do it the "expensive" way. While I have everything I need, I haven't been able to tear the dash and doors apart to actually do the install. I might eventually break down and pay to have it installed, The real problem is other things keep coming up that I want/need to do more than a push button system.
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Bluetooth and VATS aren't necessary and most C'5's have the unreliable column lock disabled. It's possible for the passive factory fob to unlock the car and activate the system without taking it out of your pocket, pushing any fob buttons or using the key. The non-passive fob would require pushing the unlock button. If the fob doesn't work the key will open the door the same way it always does. The VATS system isn't foolproof; if the contacts that read the key resistor fail, the car won't start.
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I guess I am missing something, so I'll ask the question; What the heck is the big deal about push button starting? Is it that hard to turn a key?? As for reliability, I've never had an issue with either of my original 2 keys. 125,000 miles, and 22 years later. Why change?? Nothing succeeds like success. Maybe if people didn't hang a pound of garbage from their key rings, they wouldn't have any issues? Just asking......
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i guess i am missing something, so i'll ask the question; what the heck is the big deal about push button starting? Is it that hard to turn a key?? As for reliability, i've never had an issue with either of my original 2 keys. 125,000 miles, and 22 years later. Why change?? Nothing succeeds like success. Maybe if people didn't hang a pound of garbage from their key rings, they wouldn't have any issues? Just asking......
Melting Slicks
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A so-called proper push button setup like the ones on newer cars which are typically start/stop systems, would involve adding yet another layer of electronics, designed by who knows who. Just another complication, IMO. My C5 will be 25 years old this year, and the only "key" problem I have ever had was the well known ignition lock issue, fixed years ago.
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The advantage of a push button start is if you autocross or HPDE quite often sometimes you are all bucked in and forget to put the key in the ignition. It has happened to me several times a year and it would be helpful, especially with a 6 point harness. With a C6 it is not a problem.
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