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I see this a lot with people selling their vettes. I get it if its a C4 with the LT1 / opti-spark but not with other vettes. I guarantee you everyone's corvette was sitting outside in Bowling Green in a lot when produced or on a truck that went through some rain at some point. Plus, we all wash our vettes regularly, no?
So what's the big deal and why do people think that makes their vette more valuable? Not trying to come off snobby about it, honestly curious.
I think the idea is that it shows the car has been exceptionally well cared for. It also tells the buyer that the car has spent life as a garage queen. Most obviously know that a bit of rain is not going to actually harm the car in any meaningful or permanent way. I did not have a garage for the first few years I owned my Vette, so I had no choice. However, now that I have a garage I usually choose not to drive the Corvette if I know it's going to rain. The biggest reason for this is that it takes me an entire day to wash and fully detail the car. getting rained on pretty much means that all that work is out the window, and I need to do it all again. Another practical consideration is that some Corvettes have a tendency to leak a bit in the rain. If it's never been rained on, then you know that the car has no issues related to water leakage. However, in the end the biggest thing as I said to start this, it is the buyer's way of saying the car was well cared for, and lightly used.
It's not just with Corvettes. I could care less aboot stuff like that. I don't have a garage so mine sits outside all year long BUT I do regularly wash it. Wash and remove water spots from windows if it goes weeks without washing. I guess maybe it makes the car look more pristine, no rust, showroom condition, etc. so people can claim added value. I've once seen an ad that someone claimed they washed and clay barred their car every weekend. OK, if that's how you want to treat your car but don't think I'm going to pay $10K over bluebook because of it.
I think the idea is that it shows the car has been exceptionally well cared for. It also tells the buyer that the car has spent life as a garage queen. Most obviously know that a bit of rain is not going to actually harm the car in any meaningful or permanent way. I did not have a garage for the first few years I owned my Vette, so I had no choice. However, now that I have a garage I usually choose not to drive the Corvette if I know it's going to rain. The biggest reason for this is that it takes me an entire day to wash and fully detail the car. getting rained on pretty much means that all that work is out the window, and I need to do it all again. Another practical consideration is that some Corvettes have a tendency to leak a bit in the rain. If it's never been rained on, then you know that the car has no issues related to water leakage. However, in the end the biggest thing as I said to start this, it is the buyer's way of saying the car was well cared for, and lightly used.
Every Corvette has seen rain. There are pictures of brand-new Corvettes sitting outside the factory in rain/snow. My car sits outside, it may rain, it may be sunny.
I chuckle myself when I see "never seen rain, always garage kept and driven on bright sunny days!"
I too do not have a garage currently. Mine sees plenty of rain. In fact the first day i brought it home, a tornado carrying thunderstorm came through the area. luckily our property was unscathed minus loose branches everywhere.
whether or not a vehicle has been cared for is evident in many areas, but "never being rained on" to me reads as though the car has also never been driven past 3500 rpms. which is a bad thing. Driving a car IS caring for it.
That said, I'm working on sorting out a covered parking spot, because I do not enjoy rain spots and especially the pollen that sticks to the car in spring/summer.
also, I have to wash the front bumper at least every day, because the amount of bugs that get splattered onto it (white car) is depressing/borderline embarassing lol
I would also agree that the "never seen rain" doesnt mean it was well cared for. Often times these are the cars that sit a lot and still have the 20 year old tires on because the tread is still "good". I would buy a car from a local racer before I buy a garage queen. People who track their car are more attentive to maintenance, on average.
Because of the stupid design locations of the electrical ground points on the Vette, driving in the rain can eventually cause electrical problems. Luckily, I do not have to drive in the rain although the C5 Vert sits outside 24/7/12. I have a cover for the top only to eliminate any rain finding it way through the window seals into the door panels.
Cars stay nicer when they are not driven in the rain. Same reason most corvettes are stored indoors. I actually detail the bottom of my cars because it’s stored on a lift and that’s what I see in the garage. I’m not sure why it would bother someone though, leave yours outside and drive it when ever you want. Take it off road if that makes you happy. I enjoy keeping my cars looking perfect and I enjoy driving them.
Not sure why there seems to be negativity towards someone keeping their Corvette out of the rain. Like a few others have said, it’s your car, do what you want. To me it says a car has probably been cared for. Not to say an “outdoor” car isn’t.
I’ve owned my C5 for going on 3 years. I’ve never even washed it with water. That’s crazy to most, but I keep it clean and drive it when it’s nice. It’s not my daily and never will be. It’s previous 17 years of life and 100k miles may or may not have been the same. I know how I treat it. Does it make it worth more? Probably not to most people. That’s true with anything a person does with THEIR car. Others might not see the value in it because it’s not what they would do if it were theirs. Some in the forums wouldn’t, and haven’t, changed a single thing from stock. They see value in the originality. Others like myself don’t believe a car is finished until every nut and bolt has been molested or replaced with something new. I do it for myself, so weather or not if it adds value for someone else isn’t part of my thinking process.
I too do not have a garage currently. Mine sees plenty of rain. In fact the first day i brought it home, a tornado carrying thunderstorm came through the area. luckily our property was unscathed minus loose branches everywhere.
whether or not a vehicle has been cared for is evident in many areas, but "never being rained on" to me reads as though the car has also never been driven past 3500 rpms. which is a bad thing. Driving a car IS caring for it.
That said, I'm working on sorting out a covered parking spot, because I do not enjoy rain spots and especially the pollen that sticks to the car in spring/summer.
also, I have to wash the front bumper at least every day, because the amount of bugs that get splattered onto it (white car) is depressing/borderline embarassing lol
LOL! I drove mine home from Green Bay to Indiana in a friggin major thunderstorm! For the first 6 hours of me owning the car it had, "Never been driven in dry conditions."
Be honest, if you had a choice between 2 identical cars, equal price. One you know was driven regularly, one was a garage queen, never seen rain. Most of us would take the garage queen. If you like to admit it or not, weather takes a toll on vehicles. Not dating a little rain here and there will kill it, but it affects it. Mine has been in the rain, I don't make I big deal of it. But I also don't drive it if I know it's going to rain.
Because of the stupid design locations of the electrical ground points on the Vette, driving in the rain can eventually cause electrical problems. Luckily, I do not have to drive in the rain although the C5 Vert sits outside 24/7/12. I have a cover for the top only to eliminate any rain finding it way through the window seals into the door panels.
I mean in the 2+ years I have owned a C5 I don't see how rain would ever get to the electrical grounds. Anything preventative can't be a bad thing though.
Originally Posted by GoldenFlame
I don't enjoy washing my black C5 by hand like I used to.. No more rain days.
My first C5 was black (like my other car (truck)) is hard to keep clean. Cest la vie.
Originally Posted by pauly1119
Cars stay nicer when they are not driven in the rain. Same reason most corvettes are stored indoors. I actually detail the bottom of my cars because it’s stored on a lift and that’s what I see in the garage. I’m not sure why it would bother someone though, leave yours outside and drive it when ever you want. Take it off road if that makes you happy. I enjoy keeping my cars looking perfect and I enjoy driving them.
Yeah, I bought my Vette to drive it. The two C5's I have had have seen rain a few times. It happens. I would never fault a Corvette owner for driving theirs in the rain but that's jut me.
Originally Posted by PerryKing
Not sure why there seems to be negativity towards someone keeping their Corvette out of the rain. Like a few others have said, it’s your car, do what you want. To me it says a car has probably been cared for. Not to say an “outdoor” car isn’t.
I’ve owned my C5 for going on 3 years. I’ve never even washed it with water. That’s crazy to most, but I keep it clean and drive it when it’s nice. It’s not my daily and never will be. It’s previous 17 years of life and 100k miles may or may not have been the same. I know how I treat it. Does it make it worth more? Probably not to most people. That’s true with anything a person does with THEIR car. Others might not see the value in it because it’s not what they would do if it were theirs. Some in the forums wouldn’t, and haven’t, changed a single thing from stock. They see value in the originality. Others like myself don’t believe a car is finished until every nut and bolt has been molested or replaced with something new. I do it for myself, so weather or not if it adds value for someone else isn’t part of my thinking process.
It's not negativity, it's "why does it matter"? I guess to some people it does. This is what I am learning and why I asked. Thanks for the input.
Originally Posted by Chuck A
my vert when it rains the rear wheels well they lose grip
very true, indeed
Okay, exception here... vert + rain. My first C5 was a vert and I avoided the rain like a plague but that because of the 20+ year old weather-stripping. My coupe now is not 100% proof but it's better. so I get that part. Would still drive either on wet (not water filled) roads.
Originally Posted by Vette-kid
Be honest, if you had a choice between 2 identical cars, equal price. One you know was driven regularly, one was a garage queen, never seen rain. Most of us would take the garage queen. If you like to admit it or not, weather takes a toll on vehicles. Not dating a little rain here and there will kill it, but it affects it. Mine has been in the rain, I don't make I big deal of it. But I also don't drive it if I know it's going to rain.
I get that. but honestly if they were identical, sure, I would take the one less "weathered" but if the one driven in the rain a few times was the right color / style / etc. I would go for that one. I would not deduct points for being driven in the rain, again unless it was a C4 with optispark vette.
I would also agree that the "never seen rain" doesnt mean it was well cared for. Often times these are the cars that sit a lot and still have the 20 year old tires on because the tread is still "good". I would buy a car from a local racer before I buy a garage queen. People who track their car are more attentive to maintenance, on average.
There is a difference between a car with 1k miles vs a car with 20k miles. I would almost agree I wouldn’t want a 1k mile car either but to assume that cars with 20 or 30k mile garage queens don’t take care of their cars is actually ridiculous. I’ll bet most of those owners don’t drive in bad weather and take meticulous care for their cars. I love my cars and enjoy taking care of them as much as driving them. I have a few cars and make sure I drive them every week but they just don’t get a lot of miles. I don’t track my cars and I’ll guarantee it would be hard to find someone more attentive to maintenance then I am.
There is a guy in the car club I'm in, who has 2008 SRT Challenger.....He says the car has never seen water lol!! He wipes it down after every drive with a spray wax. At 1st I would roll my eyes when he said this, but after seeing his garage and all the classic cars he has, he propbably isn't lying.