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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 09:00 PM
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I have the LS-1 edit, my PCM is reprogrammed for the supercharger, I too have a manual and received the recall notice. I don't want to beat this topic to death but, I have a lot to loose if it goes wrong. I spoke to the dealer and he told me that they will only touch the BCM not the PCM. Is this true? I explainted the whole LS-1 edit re-program and they assure me it won't be touched. Any input? It's a $500.00 gamble and a 5 hr drive if they messed it up.

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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 09:31 PM
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how much do you trust them??

personally I would install the CLB myself save the dealer trip and not worry about it ever again
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 12:20 AM
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I went to my dealer last Friday and posted this thread as a result;
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=880118

I still haven't heard back from my dealer. I will call them tomorrow or Thur
to see if they got a reply from GM. I figure I will end up installing the CLB
and skipping this recall!
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by steveNY
I explainted the whole LS-1 edit re-program and they assure me it won't be touched. Any input? It's a $500.00 gamble and a 5 hr drive if they messed it up.

Steve
One way to check out whether he knows what he's talking about is have him write a note on your repair order that the LS-1 Edit will not be touched and that they will reimburse you for out of pocket expenses which will include mileage at $.50 per and meals. Then have it signed by him and dated and have the cashier and the parts counter person witness it.

My guess is, he won't.

An easier method would be to call the LS-1 Edit folks and ask them. You know damned well that their phone's been ringing off the hook since the recall notices went out last week.

Let us know what happens.

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Thanks for the feedback, I'm starting to get real cold feet about taking it to the dealer!!!!
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 06:14 AM
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That's a big gamble. Don't think I would be willing to take it. I think I too would just install the CLB.
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 07:51 AM
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I have a custom LS1-Edit program as well and I also received the recall notice last week. I'm not having the recall done - but not because I'm afraid I'll lose my custom program. I've had my bypass in for two years and it's worked perfectly.

Even if I did take it in I wouldn't be concerned with my custom program. I own a copy of LS1-Edit with a buddy and I'd just take the laptop with me and reflash the PCM to it's custom state if they screwed it up. I realize not everyone has their own copy of the software and has the convenience of reflashing at the dealer if it goes wrong but it's not a reversible catastrophy if it does. Just have the dealer sign an agreement that they pay for towing and reflashing fees to your tuner when you have it towed to his shop to restore the correct programming to the PCM.
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I also will not be taking it to the dealer. I ordered my CLB from corvettes of houston yesterday......
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Originally Posted by steveNY
I have the LS-1 edit, my PCM is reprogrammed for the supercharger, I too have a manual and received the recall notice. I don't want to beat this topic to death but, I have a lot to loose if it goes wrong. I spoke to the dealer and he told me that they will only touch the BCM not the PCM. Is this true? I explainted the whole LS-1 edit re-program and they assure me it won't be touched. Any input? It's a $500.00 <A TITLE="Click for more information about gamble" and a 5 hr drive if they messed it up.

Steve
Steve,

I am 100% certain that in another thread (which I can't find now - perhaps because several CLB threads were combined) that another member had the recall done, and it did NOT affect his PCM which contained a custom tune.
I say this so that others may join in the search for that thread, or the member that had it done will chime in. I am not saying that you should run out and have it done based on my "memory". But I know that I read this, and an pretty sure that the recall will not affect custom programming in the PCM.

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my recall notice says the WILL re-program the PCM but I don't have an LS1 edit (yet). sorry to confuse things
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Originally Posted by baldy26
my recall notice says the WILL re-program the PCM but I don't have an LS1 edit (yet). sorry to confuse things
I read that too!
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 12:48 PM
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Just upload your "stock" file and drive easy. After the dealer is finished, reload your custom file. Just don't let the dealer hotrod your car.
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Originally Posted by BHP
Just upload your "stock" file and drive easy. After the dealer is finished, reload your custom file. Just don't let the dealer hotrod your car.
Then why bother taking it in for the recall?? If you reflash with your custom tune, the recall changes will be overwritten!
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 05:38 PM
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My 00 M6 PCM is reprogrammed for head/cam,dyno tune etc., & dealer Service Mgr told me the CL reprogram will not take. Since my car is nearly 5 yrs old, will forget it unless!
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I also have changed my PCM with LS1 Edit and own a copy of LS1 Edit. I think that there is still a great deal of uncertainty and perhaps miss information. I'm going to add a little fuel to the fire and say that I've seen some reports on the LS1 Edit mailing list that the "segment" numbers in the PCM may change with the reflash that GM does. If this is true, you may need to upgrade to a new version of LS1 Edit. If you don't have a maintenance agreement, this could be expensive. I don't know if this is true yet or not, but I'm certainly going to wait this out for some time until a general consenous is reached.

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Originally Posted by ericwf1
Then why bother taking it in for the recall?? If you reflash with your custom tune, the recall changes will be overwritten!
According to Ken Kelly, it is always best to back out the custom file. A reflash can corrupt the data.
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Originally Posted by Mark VerMurlen
I'm going to add a little fuel to the fire and say that I've seen some reports on the LS1 Edit mailing list that the "segment" numbers in the PCM may change with the reflash that GM does. If this is true, you may need to upgrade to a new version of LS1 Edit. If you don't have a maintenance agreement, this could be expensive. I don't know if this is true yet or not, but I'm certainly going to wait this out for some time until a general consenous is reached.

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This seems to be true. Unless you have the newest v1.4 LS1-Edit, your old PCM LS1-Edit file is probably useless....other than you can use it to manually copy/paste your old program settings into the the new file you'll need to create from reading the dealer flash.

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LS1-Edit v1.5 has been out for a month now..
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