Car show judging
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Melting Slicks
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Car show judging
Can someone please explain car show judging to me, i guess i dont understand.
We entered a car show today that was put on by a chevy dealership and a corvette club. I was in the c5 class which had about 6 cars in it. My car is a 2002 coupe, chrome wheels, drilled and slotted rotors,painted calipers, design specialties fuel rail covers and design spec. chrome and other mods like exhaust and so. Everything is spotless. So they announce the winners and a 2000 coupe with some pinstripping got 2nd and a bone stock 2004 coupe got 1st. Now there was a c5 convertible that had so much chrome that it was almost gawdy, he didnt win anything in the class but won best of show.
I guess i just dont know how this stuff works.
We entered a car show today that was put on by a chevy dealership and a corvette club. I was in the c5 class which had about 6 cars in it. My car is a 2002 coupe, chrome wheels, drilled and slotted rotors,painted calipers, design specialties fuel rail covers and design spec. chrome and other mods like exhaust and so. Everything is spotless. So they announce the winners and a 2000 coupe with some pinstripping got 2nd and a bone stock 2004 coupe got 1st. Now there was a c5 convertible that had so much chrome that it was almost gawdy, he didnt win anything in the class but won best of show.
I guess i just dont know how this stuff works.
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Judged car shows = cleanliness, period. Mods nor the tastefulness of them don't matter much. It's not the overall package or it's appeal, it's the dirt they can find. take a car off the showroom floor and enter it, it can and will likely win this type of judging.
Also, many club show are very politically charged. If you aren't a member of the club, or a friend of a member, forget it. Most of the club shows around here don't have the member's cars participate in the judging for this very reason, but it still boils down to who you know.
I prefer participant judging over judged and people's choice. it is the best and most accurate acknowledgement you'll get from your fellow show participants.
Also, many club show are very politically charged. If you aren't a member of the club, or a friend of a member, forget it. Most of the club shows around here don't have the member's cars participate in the judging for this very reason, but it still boils down to who you know.
I prefer participant judging over judged and people's choice. it is the best and most accurate acknowledgement you'll get from your fellow show participants.
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Originally Posted by r0lands
They must have gone by NCCC rules. Must be showroom new.
They simply are not clean enough.
I was a judge today at Carlisle , each participant told me that there car was as clean as it ever had been....well only 1 car out of 23 in the ModF and CusB and CONcours F ( all c5 classes) scored perfect.
What I am saying is when you car is spotless chances are you missed something. All the bling bling will not win in a judged show but will do well in a poeples choice show
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Different shows seem to have different criteria... I've gotten to the point where I'll clean my car but I'm not going to take the wheels off or detail my engine bay with Qtips. I go to shows to meet other people, check out their cars & have a good time.
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Sometimes it is just a gamble on what the judges are looking for in a car show. Most that I go to the host club does not compete with the other entrants. That way they can at least be a little more objective. I have found that if you have your car very clean, it does well. There are always exceptions, as the judges are just human and they can have their biases also. Just go and have fun and if you win, all the better. One thing I have found out is that if you ask when you enter what they are looking for, they will usually give you some good guidelines to go by. I tend to shy away from participant judging.
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I really dont think new, stock cars should win anything,,,to go buy a new car and enter it in a show , heck,, just about anyone can do that..stock cars,, well if they are new, whats so special about them,,unless its a gt40, enzo or sumthin exotic...I feel a car needs to be personalized, modded and made better than the factory to be a show car...stock cars with some age,,5 years or more,,,at least.. that are very clean I can deal with...unless they are never driven,, then it seem like aconcourse event, not a car show.. if I want to see stock , new cars, I go to a dealer....
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I doubt it was NCCC judged. Those are usually announced and have guidelines.
At some "shine and show" events the judges will be given grading sheets for items they're to check for cleanliness or condition. "Peoples choice" awards just depend on who can stuff the ballot box.
Anymore I just use such events as a reason to really detail the car more than usual, and I just go to be with friends, meet new Vette folks, see new stuff and have fun. If I win something, that's great. If I don't - then I don't really care anymore because I had a good time anyway.
At some "shine and show" events the judges will be given grading sheets for items they're to check for cleanliness or condition. "Peoples choice" awards just depend on who can stuff the ballot box.
Anymore I just use such events as a reason to really detail the car more than usual, and I just go to be with friends, meet new Vette folks, see new stuff and have fun. If I win something, that's great. If I don't - then I don't really care anymore because I had a good time anyway.
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Originally Posted by CAJUNY2KC5
Anymore I just use such events as a reason to really detail the car more than usual, and I just go to be with friends, meet new Vette folks, see new stuff and have fun. If I win something, that's great. If I don't - then I don't really care anymore because I had a good time anyway.
Win or Lose = Goodtime
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After being in literally hundreds of shows, I can tell you that they are all a crap shoot. You never know what to expect. As I've said before, I've won shows where I shouldn't have placed and I've been skunked when my car was the best one there. It's always nice to win, but if that's why you're going be prepared for elation and depression because you never know.
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Originally Posted by wrustywrench
I really dont think new, stock cars should win anything,,,to go buy a new car and enter it in a show , heck,, just about anyone can do that..stock cars,, well if they are new, whats so special about them,,unless its a gt40, enzo or sumthin exotic...I feel a car needs to be personalized, modded and made better than the factory to be a show car...stock cars with some age,,5 years or more,,,at least.. that are very clean I can deal with...unless they are never driven,, then it seem like aconcourse event, not a car show.. if I want to see stock , new cars, I go to a dealer....
Any modification, no matter how tasteful or functional it may be, is purely a reflection of the owner's personal tastes rather than what the manufacturer intended for the car. How does one judge personal taste? More people like red Corvettes than any other color but does that make them a superior car to say, a white one? Should a dirty red Corvette score higher than an immaculate white one?
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I agree with Corvette SSX.
I hate to lose, the emotions are real when you know you have the best car that day. I will have to learn to take the competion a little less seriously, and enjoy the overall event.
I hate to lose, the emotions are real when you know you have the best car that day. I will have to learn to take the competion a little less seriously, and enjoy the overall event.