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[Z06] Skip Shift Question
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From: Mars
I borrowed this from LS1
I did the .50 cent 2.2 ohm radio shack resistor trick to my SS. It took all of 10 minutes put the car up on ramps, pull the connector on the drivers side of the tranny and put in the resistor, tape it up and zip-tie it to another wiring harness. It worked perfectly and best of all, my skip shift light never comes on anymore. The car is really a pleasure to drive without the CAGS, I didn't expect this much of a difference.
I should have done this when I first got the car.
Installuniversity.com has a great writeup on this.
I did the .50 cent 2.2 ohm radio shack resistor trick to my SS. It took all of 10 minutes put the car up on ramps, pull the connector on the drivers side of the tranny and put in the resistor, tape it up and zip-tie it to another wiring harness. It worked perfectly and best of all, my skip shift light never comes on anymore. The car is really a pleasure to drive without the CAGS, I didn't expect this much of a difference.
I should have done this when I first got the car.
Installuniversity.com has a great writeup on this.
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I just purchased a zo6 and looked under it to find the skip shift connection. There are three wires going into the transmission. One on the passenger side and two on the drivers side, one high and one in the middle of the transmission. Can someone tell me the wire to the skipshift, I am going to use a resistor. Also which one is the VSS...thanks
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Here is something interesting:
As soon as I had the 4:10 gears installed the skip shift (Cags) disappeared, and has not come back. Maybe it is because the rear is spinning too fast to trigger it? The installer assured me that nothing was altered or changed to cause this.
Go figure?
As soon as I had the 4:10 gears installed the skip shift (Cags) disappeared, and has not come back. Maybe it is because the rear is spinning too fast to trigger it? The installer assured me that nothing was altered or changed to cause this.
Go figure?
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From: Nesconset (LI) NY
Originally Posted by zoomdaddy
Here is something interesting:
As soon as I had the 4:10 gears installed the skip shift (Cags) disappeared, and has not come back. Maybe it is because the rear is spinning too fast to trigger it? The installer assured me that nothing was altered or changed to cause this.
Go figure?
As soon as I had the 4:10 gears installed the skip shift (Cags) disappeared, and has not come back. Maybe it is because the rear is spinning too fast to trigger it? The installer assured me that nothing was altered or changed to cause this.
Go figure?
Last edited by Andy64; Oct 9, 2004 at 08:00 PM.
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Skip shift question for Andy64?
Originally Posted by Andy64
My guess is since you went from 3.42 to 4.10, at low speeds your doing more RPM's requiring less torque to turn the wheels which is why you get better off the line acceleration, so your probably just over the RPM limit for CAGS to kick in. I believe if your at 2500 RPMs CAGS will not force you into 4th if attempting to shift from 1st regardless of MPH.
On 10/9/04 you answered a question on my skip shift disappearance after I had 4.10s installed. Your answer semed like the most sensible reason for this to happen. However, I have tried repeatedly to make the Cags kick in and it will not do it. I have purposely held the RPMs below 2000 for a half of a block in first gear and it still won't do it. Don't get me wrong ..... I love it without that pain in the *** skip shift, but I am just curious as to why the gear change seems to have canceled out the Cags. ECS assured me that they did not eliminate it. By the way EAST COAST did a super job on the gear installation.
Jim
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From: Nesconset (LI) NY
Originally Posted by zoomdaddy
Andy:
On 10/9/04 you answered a question on my skip shift disappearance after I had 4.10s installed. Your answer semed like the most sensible reason for this to happen. However, I have tried repeatedly to make the Cags kick in and it will not do it. I have purposely held the RPMs below 2000 for a half of a block in first gear and it still won't do it. Don't get me wrong ..... I love it without that pain in the *** skip shift, but I am just curious as to why the gear change seems to have canceled out the Cags. ECS assured me that they did not eliminate it. By the way EAST COAST did a super job on the gear installation.
Jim
On 10/9/04 you answered a question on my skip shift disappearance after I had 4.10s installed. Your answer semed like the most sensible reason for this to happen. However, I have tried repeatedly to make the Cags kick in and it will not do it. I have purposely held the RPMs below 2000 for a half of a block in first gear and it still won't do it. Don't get me wrong ..... I love it without that pain in the *** skip shift, but I am just curious as to why the gear change seems to have canceled out the Cags. ECS assured me that they did not eliminate it. By the way EAST COAST did a super job on the gear installation.
Jim
Any case ... nice to not have that skip shift
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Originally Posted by Andy64
That's quite a head scratcher. CAGS works based on MPH and RPMs according to the algorithm GM set. Only thing a rear end would do is affect RPMs at different MPHs. It can be programmed off within the computer system. Perhaps the cable was disloged during the work inadvertantly or programming changed inadvertantly if any programming was done ( I assume changing Gears required a programming change to correct Speedo ). Perhaps there is more in the algorithm from GM for CAGS and maybe if the gears are changed it automatically disables ? Maybe others with rear change have noticed same thing ...
Any case ... nice to not have that skip shift
Any case ... nice to not have that skip shift
When I went back for the 500 mile gear oil change, I had the mechanic
examine closely, the connection for the Cags. It looked fine. In addition the Z06 does not require a programming change when swaping gear ratios.
Yes, it may be entirely possible that the gear change automatically disables the cags. It sure did it on my car. And as you have pointed out it is surprising that others have not commented on this. Am I the only one?
So far the rear is the only modification to my Z06, but I love the 4.10 rear. The car is so much more fun to drive and you actually want to use 5th and 6th gear. Consider this:
At 70 MPH in 6th gear my tach reads just slightly under 2100 RPMs.
My 2001 (Totally stock- 6 cylinder) Nissan Maxima (5 speed) reads 2800 RPMs at 70 MPH. My point is, that there is no real strain on the motor with the 4.10s, and there is a noticable SOP pull in every gear. I have seen comments that it feels like a 100Hp more. I do not agree. However I would say that it FEELS like a 40 or 50 HP increase even though you actually lose a slight amount of horsepower and torque. The car is definitely quicker with the 4.10s. And in time it should really WAKE UP the motor.
