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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 06:46 AM
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Having discovered that an Optima would cost me the thick end of $300 over here I bit the bullet and asked the stealership if they had an AC Delco AGM battery for my 2000 MN6. I don't want a potentially leaky standard battery.

Tech forum gave the part number of the AGM battery as 78P-7YR, but the stealership is trying to get me to buy a 78-7MF. I have googled this battery designation and can only find it on yahoo japan. As neither I nor my PC speak Japanese I haven't been able work out the specifications, other than it is 770CCA which is good.

I think that with no 'P' in the part number they are trying to fob me off with a standard lead acid battery.

Does anyone know if this is an absorbant glass mat battery or should I sell some underused body parts to buy a red top?

Thanks everyone.
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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 07:14 AM
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The battery number has to have a P in the number. I bought a AGM78P-7YR. It started the car twice, I took it back and bought an Optima
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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 11:29 AM
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Here's what an OEM AC Delco AGM looks like. My AGM has performed flawlessly for more than 3 years and is still going strong.
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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Cochemarman
Having discovered that an Optima would cost me the thick end of $300 over here I bit the bullet and asked the stealership if they had an AC Delco AGM battery for my 2000 MN6. I don't want a potentially leaky standard battery.

Tech forum gave the part number of the AGM battery as 78P-7YR, but the stealership is trying to get me to buy a 78-7MF. I have googled this battery designation and can only find it on yahoo japan. As neither I nor my PC speak Japanese I haven't been able work out the specifications, other than it is 770CCA which is good.

I think that with no 'P' in the part number they are trying to fob me off with a standard lead acid battery.

Does anyone know if this is an absorbant glass mat battery or should I sell some underused body parts to buy a red top?

Thanks everyone.
HOLY CR@P $300 for what? The Optima Gold Plated Anniversary Editon with a 100 years of service? I think you sould check out CostCo ($99 for red tops) or try your local high end stereo shop. Some carry them as well. I wouldn't opt for a Delco again!
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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 12:44 PM
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Well MyVetteDream, if only it was a wondrous thing such as you describe.

But no, this is the European price for a bog standard red top. I can't mail order one because the couriers regard batteries as explosive devices (good job we don't have anything that nasty in our cars - oh my word we do!)

Looks like GM won't supply me with and AGM battery.

'Fraid I shall be off to Toulouse next week with my Euro235 for a new red top.

Thanks all for helping out.
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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Cochemarman
Well MyVetteDream, if only it was a wondrous thing such as you describe.

But no, this is the European price for a bog standard red top. I can't mail order one because the couriers regard batteries as explosive devices (good job we don't have anything that nasty in our cars - oh my word we do!)

Looks like GM won't supply me with and AGM battery.

'Fraid I shall be off to Toulouse next week with my Euro235 for a new red top.

Thanks all for helping out.
I thought Optima's were doing well in Europe?

http://www.exa-europe.com/
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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Richin Chicago
I thought Optima's were doing well in Europe?

http://www.exa-europe.com/
Rich! Did you look at the prices on this site? Makes my Euro 235 look like a bargain.

This is the battery I need right?

MODÈLE 34/78 (1560S)
• 12 Volts
• 815 CCA à -18°C (EN)
• 1050 CA à O° (SAE)
• Dim : 254L x 172 l x 199 H mm
• Poids : 17,6 kg
• Réf : 0303005
B]TARIF : 281,06 € TTC[/B]

That's about $340

This is the problem with driving an exotic foreign car
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Originally Posted by Cochemarman
Rich! Did you look at the prices on this site? Makes my Euro 235 look like a bargain.

This is the battery I need right?

MODÈLE 34/78 (1560S)
• 12 Volts
• 815 CCA à -18°C (EN)
• 1050 CA à O° (SAE)
• Dim : 254L x 172 l x 199 H mm
• Poids : 17,6 kg
• Réf : 0303005
B]TARIF : 281,06 € TTC[/B]

That's about $340

This is the problem with driving an exotic foreign car
You know ... as I was replying, I thought maybe it was something like Foreign costs ... sorry to hear about that. Can I Fed Ex you one?
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Get a friend to ship you one of these.
Odyssey battery model PC1200LMJT. It is a dry-cell battery. (Ferrari uses them so you might find one in europe pretty easily) They retail for $157 but can be found for 120 to 130 bucks. Weighs about 35 pounds and is about the same size as the ac/delco (one inch shorter in length) They can sit for 2 years without discharging, too, if that is an issue for you. Shipping is not a problem. This model has the + terminal on the left which is what you want.

I would say this is the finest battery around, but it would set off another battery war. I've had the motorcycle version on my bike for years. its perfect. it is the next car battery i will buy when i need one.
Any questions, let me know.


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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 05:01 PM
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damn it!!! for all this time i never paid attention on "optima" threads wondering why they even let a thread talking about Nissan here on the forum!!!

what??? i have a battery that's gonna leak and damage my car???

THANK YOU GM!
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Originally Posted by Cochemarman
Rich! Did you look at the prices on this site? Makes my Euro 235 look like a bargain.

This is the battery I need right?

MODÈLE 34/78 (1560S)
• 12 Volts
• 815 CCA à -18°C (EN)
• 1050 CA à O° (SAE)
• Dim : 254L x 172 l x 199 H mm
• Poids : 17,6 kg
• Réf : 0303005
B]TARIF : 281,06 € TTC[/B]

That's about $340

This is the problem with driving an exotic foreign car
Sorry I don't read French. Did you check any of the U.K. sites? There is a ton listed in Yahoo U.K. search under spiralcell. U.K. might be much more competetive.
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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Richin Chicago
Sorry I don't read French. Did you check any of the U.K. sites? There is a ton listed in Yahoo U.K. search under spiralcell. U.K. might be much more competetive.
Here's a quick translation for you and I converted the measurement.

MODEL 34/78 (1560S)
• 12 Volts
• 815 CCA @ 0°F
• 1050 CA à 32°F
• Dim : 12" x 6.77" x 7.84"
• Weight : 38.75Lbs
• Ref : 0303005
Price : 281,06 € TTC
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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 06:27 PM
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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by StevieB
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yo, bro! where are your twin/tripplette brothers?
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 02:33 AM
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Richin Chicago - sorry, didn't mean to be rude! Thanks for tip on searching under spiralcell, I'll do that later.

Verysoon - I've emailed a couple of US suppliers to find out the cost of shipping on an Odyssey, but I have a query. The pictures show them with top terminals, but I've got 2000 MN6 with a side terminal battery. Will the PC1200MJC fit? Sorry to be so ignorant about all this. I'm going to do some searches for Odyssey in the UK and France as well to see what turns up . .

Thanks again everyone.
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 02:36 AM
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PS, discovered last evening that the 78-7MF Ac Delco is a marine/agricultural usage battery . . .

Don't you just love GM dealers? ? ? ?

Which reminds me, as they put a mineral based 10w40 in my baby instead of synthetic 5w30 I'd better do a change really soon.
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