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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 04:09 PM
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So it rained here in Cali (1 of the four days it actually rains here) and i hit a puddle (going slowly) and hydrolocked my engine. This is par for the course concerning my luck with cars. It's a crappy feeling since I just purchased the car in july and got this car partly because I didnt want to have all the repair costs that i had with my rx7.
(It has been almost exactly 1 year since my engine blew in my RX-7)

Since I'm already looking at hefty bill here, I was wondering if it'd be worth dropping a z06 engine into my '99. Could anyone give me some insight advice on what it would take? I plan on having a chevy dealer do the work so that I will get the full warranty but if this isnt a wise descision I'd also like other ideas.

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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 04:16 PM
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Sorry to hear of your misfortune. I don't have the answer to your question but......What intake were you using???? And how deep ws the puddle???
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 04:40 PM
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another option is to look at the LS2 block. It's not as straight forward as the LS6, but can be done, and you get some more cubes in the process. Talk to Andy at A&A.
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Sorry to hear of your misfortune. I don't have the answer to your question but......What intake were you using???? And how deep ws the puddle???
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I have the vortec (sp?) intake the car is slammed. The puddle was a little deeper then it appeared (and def. deeper then i expected) but it wasn't insanely deep. I feel foolish for going through the puddle but I never thought that it was even close to being in the dangerzone of my intake.
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 05:19 PM
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May want to post this in the tech section. Not sure of an answer for you, but the LS6 would be an option. Probably some computer changes and maybe some wiring harness changes needed. I agree - speak with Andy at A&A and see what he recommends.
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 05:38 PM
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I would look into your insurance, sometimes you can get it covered under collision. But good luck, and sorry about your misfortunes with the puddle...


ps. If it were me, i'd use the excuse to put in a forged stroker!
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 05:47 PM
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the situation sucks and it's gonna make things really tight but if insurance does pay for it then i will be looking into footing the difference of the bill and maybe getting something with a little more power. (unless it's a way more expensive) I still have to learn how to handle all the gobs of low end torque the stock motor had, but It'll be just as sweet with a few more ft/lbs. It's also a bummer that all the #'s on the car wont match now.
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 05:53 PM
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What exactly does hydrolocking mean, guessing pistons get some water in them and the engine siezes... Is that not repairable? How much would it be to have the engine rebuilt, less than replacing it?
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basically your engine ingests water. Since the viscosity of water is just a 'little' higher then hot air on the compression stroke the water cant exit fast enough and well...you can imagine the rest... if not.... two cracks on each side of the block and oil spilling out
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Couple of things - first YIKES !!! I've got the same intake. Bummer.

Second - a crated LS6 motor I believe will run you around $7.5k - and I'm sure it would just drop in. I really wonder if a "dealer" will do such an install - but there must be numerous qualified shops in SoCal that could handle it.

Good luck
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What exactly does hydrolocking mean, guessing pistons get some water in them and the engine siezes... Is that not repairable? How much would it be to have the engine rebuilt, less than replacing it?

Fluids do not compress as gasses will. Water gets in the combustion chamber and somethings got to give...usually a rod through the side of the block.
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by scott_fx
So it rained here in Cali (1 of the four days it actually rains here) and i hit a puddle (going slowly) and hydrolocked my engine. This is par for the course concerning my luck with cars. It's a crappy feeling since I just purchased the car in july and got this car partly because I didnt want to have all the repair costs that i had with my rx7.
(It has been almost exactly 1 year since my engine blew in my RX-7)

Since I'm already looking at hefty bill here, I was wondering if it'd be worth dropping a z06 engine into my '99. Could anyone give me some insight advice on what it would take? I plan on having a chevy dealer do the work so that I will get the full warranty but if this isnt a wise descision I'd also like other ideas.

Thanks for the help in advance

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Dropping in an LS6 is just a swap for swap. We have the LS6 for 5229.99 shipped and we also have an LS2 longblock in stock for a couple more hundred dollars.. around 5495.

Gene
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by stangkiller18
I would look into your insurance, sometimes you can get it covered under collision. But good luck, and sorry about your misfortunes with the puddle...


ps. If it were me, i'd use the excuse to put in a forged stroker!
Definately check with your insurance carrier. I have
seen posts from members who have had this covered
under comprehensive. The worst that can happen is they say
no and you are in the situation you think you are in.
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sorry about being ignorant (still new to the chevy club, actually even the piston club) but the ls6 motor is the z06, the ls2 is the 2000+ c5 and the ls1 is the 97-99 engine? is there any where i can get more info on this? search just brings back a million things
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Originally Posted by scott_fx
sorry about being ignorant (still new to the chevy club, actually even the piston club) but the ls6 motor is the z06, the ls2 is the 2000+ c5 and the ls1 is the 97-99 engine? is there any where i can get more info on this? search just brings back a million things
LS6 is the Z06, LS1 is the coupe/convertible C5, LS2 is the C6.
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by scott_fx
sorry about being ignorant (still new to the chevy club, actually even the piston club) but the ls6 motor is the z06,
yes.

the ls2 is the 2000+ c5
no. the ls2 is the "new" motor for the 2005+ C6's.

and the ls1 is the 97-99 engine?
yes and no. yes, the ls1 is the 97-99 engine, but it's more correctly the 97-2004 coupe/vert engine.

is there any where i can get more info on this? search just brings back a million things
ask right here.
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Originally Posted by Violet
ask right here.
cool!... so ls2 is a longblock, the ls6 is a short block... they both are putting out the same hp though right? so what would the advantages/disadvantages be for both?
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cool!... so ls2 is a longblock, the ls6 is a short block... they both are putting out the same hp though right? so what would the advantages/disadvantages be for both?
Both can be long blocks and both can be short block...the ls2 and ls6 are only engine designations.

The ls2 is a 6 liter engine compared to the ls1 5.7 liters. The ls2 makes 400 hp/ 400 lb-ft torque which is a nice jump up from the ls1.

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The difference is:

short block...without heads,

long block....with heads.

I would assume that to try to go with the new LS2 would require a "whole" engine (intake,exhaust, etc.) and would be a rather involved swap. Not sure it would be worth the money as you could get even more power out of a modestly modded LS1/LS6.

Just my $.02
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The difference is:

short block...without heads,

long block....with heads.

I would assume that to try to go with the new LS2 would require a "whole" engine (intake,exhaust, etc.) and would be a rather involved swap. Not sure it would be worth the money as you could get even more power out of a modestly modded LS1/LS6.

Just my $.02
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