[Z06] ...Very good race!!!
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From: springfield missouri
yes, you are right. simply trying to point out that other people are fast too. there a honda civic in town I would not run. there is always someone faster. I myself really like the vette and will keep it for a long time regardless of whatever project I start in the future.
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From: Tacoma WA
Originally Posted by huckleberrydude
yes, you are right. simply trying to point out that other people are fast too. there a honda civic in town I would not run. there is always someone faster. I myself really like the vette and will keep it for a long time regardless of whatever project I start in the future.
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From: Cedar Rapids Iowa
If there is one thing that I wish people would stop doing on this forum is comparing modified cars to stock cars. Almost any car can be modified extensively enough to beat any given stock car, at least in straight line acceleration. For example, a Honda Civic with enough boost and a lot of other expensive stuff can produce 800 HP, but for how long? It is right on the hairy edge of blowing every time you run it and has no low end.
For the record, a stock Mustang Cobra has 390 HP and weighs 3600 pounds. A stock Z06 has 405 HP and weighs 3100 pounds. It does not take a genius to see which car has the higher power-to-weight ratio (acceleration) and the better aerodynamics (top end). If the Z06 driver was absolutely terrible and the Cobra driver was very good, the Cobra might have some initial advantage but would eventually be overtaken by power-to-weight ratio and aerodynamics. It is simple numbers.
I am not interested in hearing about how something modified is faster than something stock. It is meaningless.
For the record, a stock Mustang Cobra has 390 HP and weighs 3600 pounds. A stock Z06 has 405 HP and weighs 3100 pounds. It does not take a genius to see which car has the higher power-to-weight ratio (acceleration) and the better aerodynamics (top end). If the Z06 driver was absolutely terrible and the Cobra driver was very good, the Cobra might have some initial advantage but would eventually be overtaken by power-to-weight ratio and aerodynamics. It is simple numbers.
I am not interested in hearing about how something modified is faster than something stock. It is meaningless.
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FOODCHAIN - Indigestion
Stock for stock - anyone with a copy of Car-&-Driver can benchrace out the results. Big Deal.
Dollar for Dollar - Hmmm $46K Z06 vs $35K Cobra. Not sure what the argument is... except that my calculator shows the cobra to be cheaper leaving a chunk of change for mods to go around corners or go fast straight or both.
Foodchain - Every forum thinks their car is the "top of the food chain".
Don't get me wrong I love my Z06.... but I don't believe I'm at the top of the foodchain. Anyone who's spent anytime in the street racing scene or at the track knows there is always some little sleeper out there with your name on it. And I just love to see those cars come out of the woodwork and trounce the benchracers
I just sold my 347 stoked 90 Mustang Coupe that is street legal w/smog/AC/accy's..... with a total build cost including car of about $10K it ran 11's on street tires on motor and was a total sleeper. It's prowling the streets of Galveston these days turning out Vipers and Z06's on a regular basis.
Point is in the real-world there's always something faster, and I wouldn't get too caught up in the whole foodchain bit.
My 2 cents.
Dollar for Dollar - Hmmm $46K Z06 vs $35K Cobra. Not sure what the argument is... except that my calculator shows the cobra to be cheaper leaving a chunk of change for mods to go around corners or go fast straight or both.
Foodchain - Every forum thinks their car is the "top of the food chain".
Don't get me wrong I love my Z06.... but I don't believe I'm at the top of the foodchain. Anyone who's spent anytime in the street racing scene or at the track knows there is always some little sleeper out there with your name on it. And I just love to see those cars come out of the woodwork and trounce the benchracers
I just sold my 347 stoked 90 Mustang Coupe that is street legal w/smog/AC/accy's..... with a total build cost including car of about $10K it ran 11's on street tires on motor and was a total sleeper. It's prowling the streets of Galveston these days turning out Vipers and Z06's on a regular basis.
Point is in the real-world there's always something faster, and I wouldn't get too caught up in the whole foodchain bit.
My 2 cents.
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Originally Posted by Robert56
Your really starting to show your ignorance (lacking knowledge or experience) concerning the American muscle car seen. The Z06 is at the top of the food chain, try high 11's bone stock. If you really owned a Z06 you would know with out a shadow of doubt which car is superior in all regards. Don't flame, yea right, when you claim to own a Z06 and then say a Mustang is better in all ways, you make me laugh. Robert
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From: Escondido CA
nah nah nah nah nahhhhhhhhh-$35k for a cobra-hey i paid $36 k for a used Z06 with 4k mi on it...so there!!! ..don't we all go crazy with these comparisons."and can't we all just get along"
.hey drive um and enjoy um..now i 'v got 17k mi on my Z and it has been an absolute blast -and it was bargain...i suppose if i could buy a used cobra, saleen ,or rousch for as good a deal as i got on the Z i might have done that, but i'm a GM guy who wanted another vette and after waiting about 30 yrs i made a good deal..hooray for a bitchen two seater
.hey drive um and enjoy um..now i 'v got 17k mi on my Z and it has been an absolute blast -and it was bargain...i suppose if i could buy a used cobra, saleen ,or rousch for as good a deal as i got on the Z i might have done that, but i'm a GM guy who wanted another vette and after waiting about 30 yrs i made a good deal..hooray for a bitchen two seater
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From: Bakersfield CA
Originally Posted by Robert56
Your really starting to show your ignorance (lacking knowledge or experience) concerning the American muscle car seen. The Z06 is at the top of the food chain, try high 11's bone stock. If you really owned a Z06 you would know with out a shadow of doubt which car is superior in all regards. Don't flame, yea right, when you claim to own a Z06 and then say a Mustang is better in all ways, you make me laugh. Robert
BTW, I had a Mustang 4.6 2v GT (the early one) that would hand my stock '02 ZO6 it's *** in any type of straightline race. If you're going to go out on the street thinking your "top of the food chain", you better be ready for a rude awakening.
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From: Tacoma WA
Yea, those rude awankings do happen. But, I'll tell you what they are certainly far and few in my Z06. And I'm not talking out of my arz, have been involved in drag racing since early sixties when my father was running b/altered class. Had a bracket Henry-J that would hand most their walking papers. Belonged to The Lakewood Street Racers in the '70's running a '56 wheel standing Shorty wagon. Many '57 chevys N2O small blocks that wern't to slow, big block chevelles and on and on and of course Mustangs. However, none can compare to overall performance of a Z06. Looking to put mine in the 10'sand still get 26mpg driving to work. Amerkin, if that stang was so wonderfull, why on earth would you get a Z06 that according to you would get it's arz handed to it. Everytime I take the Z out someone revs on me, Ford lighting a couple days ago, do I need to explain the results. When you have driving/racing time it's for sure in your favour when someone revs on you. I hope you guys realize it's nothing personal, just passion for the Corvette. Yes there are some non chevys that are fast, I will agree. Robert
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From: Bakersfield CA
Originally Posted by Robert56
Amerkin, if that stang was so wonderfull, why on earth would you get a Z06 that according to you would get it's arz handed to it. I hope you guys realize it's nothing personal, just passion for the Corvette. Yes there are some non chevys that are fast, I will agree. Robert
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From: Tacoma WA
Originally Posted by huckleberrydude
I love my Z06. I just got bent out of shape by someone who can't read claiming that I don't own a Z and that I was ignorant on the situation. so **** on you and to every one else. 
to every one else. amerkin, good insight and agree with your last post.
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From: springfield missouri
OK, it's cool
I appreciate everyones insight so far on my fairly recent purchase. this site has been a big help.
Robert, if your ever local, there are alot of guys who would come out and have fun including the old C5 that just kicked my *** badly.
I appreciate everyones insight so far on my fairly recent purchase. this site has been a big help.
Robert, if your ever local, there are alot of guys who would come out and have fun including the old C5 that just kicked my *** badly.
