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Each time I think I've just about made a decision on what system to buy, someone throws me another curve.
The lastest one is that you might have a system that you really like and then you install headers on it and it becomes loud enough to wake the dead. So if I get the Borla Stingers, or the GHL GHL Motorsports or the Corsa Pace Car, then later install those Kooks headers I've been thinking about, then I can expect to have to have to shell out another $700 or so for a NEW exhaust system. Barf.
So let me ask those of you who have headers and do NOT want a LOUD system, only one with a deep rumble and no cruising drone, what sort of system you have?
I had the Indys the after the Cam & Headers it was too LOUD since I like the Corsa systems with low resonance I switched to the Touring Edition and added the X pipe. Much melower and smoother now, but I have to admit I was thinking of going with a set of Z06 Ti's.......they also sound great not to mention they're much lighter.
Last edited by Larry_Yerton; Oct 31, 2004 at 08:23 PM.
Each time I think I've just about made a decision on what system to buy, someone throws me another curve.
The lastest one is that you might have a system that you really like and then you install headers on it and it becomes loud enough to wake the dead. So if I get the Borla Stingers, or the GHL GHL Motorsports or the Corsa Pace Car, then later install those Kooks headers I've been thinking about, then I can expect to have to have to shell out another $700 or so for a NEW exhaust system. Barf.
So let me ask those of you who have headers and do NOT want a LOUD system, only one with a deep rumble and no cruising drone, what sort of system you have?
Good question. I'd like to have a bark when I get on it. But even if I am pushing it on the highway, I don't want to live with a drone hour after hour.
Headers don't raise the volume nearly as much as a big cam. My 68 exhaust sound was certainly deeper after I had headers installed, but the neighbors REALLY took notice after the cam install. Most of the C5 owners I know who have had headers AND cam installs ended up going with the Z06 titanium exhaust. It sounds just right with a mod-happy C5, IMO.
That being said, I still maintain that with mild mods like an aftermarket intake, the Borla Stingers' idle is at the top of the heap.
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Originally Posted by JACKAL0PE
Each time I think I've just about made a decision on what system to buy, someone throws me another curve.
The lastest one is that you might have a system that you really like and then you install headers on it and it becomes loud enough to wake the dead. So if I get the Borla Stingers, or the GHL GHL Motorsports or the Corsa Pace Car, then later install those Kooks headers I've been thinking about, then I can expect to have to have to shell out another $700 or so for a NEW exhaust system. Barf.
So let me ask those of you who have headers and do NOT want a LOUD system, only one with a deep rumble and no cruising drone, what sort of system you have?
GHL with an X-Pipe and stock cats and manifold are fairly tame but definitely not stock. ZERO resonance at any rpm/speed/gear.
Any header you buy will have a dramatic effect on the exhaust note. If you're looking for deep rumble, no (minimal) resonance, and not extremely obnoxious, I'd say you're looking for GHL, X-Pipe and shorty headers with stock cats in place.
The way I'm set up is not for everyone. I picked up some resonance with the LGM's but only at certain points in the gear/rpm spectrum. I correct it by staying in a lower gear just a bit longer.
The fact that you're concerned about too much noise tells me you'll want to avoid long tubes altogether and keep the stock cats.
The catback you choose will have a big effect on volume. I have run several different setups and finally settled on the Z06 Ti's and cutouts with my h/c and header setup. Eliminating cats is probably not the best way to accomplish a loud setup as you'll often have to deal with unacceptable fume levels and you'll need to run O2 simms or turn the sensors off via tuning sw. We put LG's in a friend's car with h/c and the Ti's and whether he had the cats or not had more effect of the volume.
I never worry about volume levels on my setup because I can choose stealth or loud at the flip of a switch. I also run the hi-flow cats but it sounds wicked with the cutouts open. You're welcome to hear it if you're ever in the neighborhood.
GHL with an X-Pipe and stock cats and manifold are fairly tame but definitely not stock. ZERO resonance at any rpm/speed/gear.
Any header you buy will have a dramatic effect on the exhaust note. If you're looking for deep rumble, no (minimal) resonance, and not extremely obnoxious, I'd say you're looking for GHL, X-Pipe and shorty headers with stock cats in place.
The way I'm set up is not for everyone. I picked up some resonance with the LGM's but only at certain points in the gear/rpm spectrum. I correct it by staying in a lower gear just a bit longer.
The fact that you're concerned about too much noise tells me you'll want to avoid long tubes altogether and keep the stock cats.
That's my best $0.02
Good Luck!
Michael
Excellent comment Michael, thanks. I do have to question the bit about "shorty" headers. Given the design of the stock exhaust manifold, I really question that you'd get much out of a set of shortys. I think you'd really have to go to long tubes to make it worth your while (although I'm MORE than willing to be persuaded by a dyno sheet).
Everything I've heard about Corsa has been good, especially the part about resonance and an "X" pipe. However, I was questioning if the Indy's would be too loud for me WITHOUT a set of headers. I have to think that they would certainly be too loud with them.