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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 07:18 AM
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Always read about little minor problems with our cars that will go on for pages at a time, column lock. fuel senders, leaky diff. I say "so what". These are small problems that GM chose to ignor during the run for what reason I don't know or care. In my case (knock wood) my car has not been down for one day. I have a friend with a 03 BMW 745 and his has been in the shop for a total of 28 days and we are speaking about a 80 thousand dollar car. With the performance available to us, I'm surprised that our cars didn't develope more serious problems. All in all we have a great car that will compete with 99% of what is out there. You can beat the s**t out of it and it always comes back for more. Try doing some of these things with your D/D and see what problems develop. I'm hooked and there will always be a vette in my garage.
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 07:38 AM
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My two cents on this one. I can't see leaving known issues deliberately go unresolved. Certainly some things that go wrong can be attributed to luck of the draw, wear and so forth. Mechanical things do break. However, items like the fuel sending problem and CLB are significant product design failures that should have been corrected (not patched) at the first opportunity. I love my 'vette and have been a GM fan for as long as I can remember but I've lost faith in them. I own other brands, Ford, Dodge, Toyota and there isn't any comparison - GM products have been substantially below these in terms of quality, styling, fit/finish. They need to make some radical changes up there if their going to survive and ultimately thrive. Given the mistakes (can you say Aztec?) and lack of originality were now seeing in their new models combined with their just good enough quality mentality, it would appear that they haven't got the message yet (or they have and don't care to correct it).
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 07:43 AM
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I haven't had a single issue with my '04. 6,000 miles of aggressive but none abusive use.
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by drmgoat
My two cents on this one. I can't see leaving known issues deliberately go unresolved. Certainly some things that go wrong can be attributed to luck of the draw, wear and so forth. Mechanical things do break. However, items like the fuel sending problem and CLB are significant product design failures that should have been corrected (not patched) at the first opportunity. I love my 'vette and have been a GM fan for as long as I can remember but I've lost faith in them. I own other brands, Ford, Dodge, Toyota and there isn't any comparison - GM products have been substantially below these in terms of quality, styling, fit/finish. They need to make some radical changes up there if their going to survive and ultimately thrive. Given the mistakes (can you say Aztec?) and lack of originality were now seeing in their new models combined with their just good enough quality mentality, it would appear that they haven't got the message yet (or they have and don't care to correct it).
I suggest you sell your GM Corvette as soon as possible. Get that Ford or Dodge...
This is a 100,000 sports car with a 50,000 dollars price tag.. If this car was perfect it "WOULD BE" 100,000 dollars. If this car had a Porche badge on it , it would have a 100,000+ price tag and would still have a ton of problems. If this was an NSX it would still be 100,000+. So be thankful for little things. There is no car in the world that can come close to this car for the same money. This car has history, has always been designed and built with the passion of GM engineers and employees. There is no doubt what it is to anyone. It is not a Euro clone, or a Japanese wanna be. Be thankful that GM project management has put in place a program with budget restraints to deliver this awesome car for 50,000 dollars. This is America, at it finest...

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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 08:04 AM
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My baby has been the most reliable car I've ever owned!!! I baby her and treat her like she's made of gold but at the same time, I drive her year round (except when there's salt on the ground like now) and really pushed her sometimes(Intrubl knows all too well since we've driven around together) Yet, she sounds even better than the day I bought her. She's got over 22,000 miles now, averaging 8k a year. In my opinion, GM built an amazing sports car in the C5. Obviously, its not perfect but I guarantee you that there is not one car on the road that doesn't have some design flaw. Nowadays, with more and more electronics going into vehicles, they seem to have a miriad of gremlins. We're very lucky that the C5 and C6 have been so well designed and are so reliable, despite them using cutting edge technology, massive engines that can blow away 90% of what's on the road, yet are comfortable and reliable enough to be used on a daily basis. No wonder the C5 won the SAE's coveted car of the century award in the sports car division.
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 08:26 AM
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I disagree with the quote that GM is behind on styling. One of the main reasons I bought a C5 was because of the styling. The performance was a given.
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 08:31 AM
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I love my baby...no matter what
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Evil-Twin
This is a 100,000 sports car with a 50,000 dollars price tag..
Performance, styling, 30 mpg....and an Americal Legend....

With my fleet, I've had all the issues....and I have more fun with them than I ever imagined. Taking the good with the bad....it still is heavily in favor of GOOD.
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Evil-Twin
I suggest you sell your GM Corvette as soon as possible. Get that Ford or Dodge...
This is a 100,000 sports car with a 50,000 dollars price tag.. If this car was perfect it "WOULD BE" 100,000 dollars. If this car had a Porche badge on it , it would have a 100,000+ price tag and would still have a ton of problems. If this was an NSX it would still be 100,000+. So be thankful for little things. There is no car in the world that can come close to this car for the same money. This car has history, has always been designed and built with the passion of GM engineers and employees. There is no doubt what it is to anyone. It is not a Euro clone, or a Japanese wanna be. Be thankful that GM project management has put in place a program with budget restraints to deliver this awesome car for 50,000 dollars. This is America, at it finest...

Well said.
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 400hp
I disagree with the quote that GM is behind on styling. One of the main reasons I bought a C5 was because of the styling. The performance was a given.
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 09:23 AM
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As daily drivers, I have owned Japanese, German and many american models over the last 60 plus years. Some have been excellent commuter cars and others have been dogs. But none has kept me smiling as well as the 3 Corvettes that I have considered as daily drivers. They have been the best commuter cars, bare none. My 88 and my 96 coupes each required a single flatbed ride: unexpected battery failue in each of them. And yes, there have been mechanical failures in each but nothing that left me on the side of the road.

I grew up, years before most of you and I can tell you about poor design and absent quality of cars in the 40s, 50s and 60s; when you spent all weekend working on the cars so they could be driven the next week and when you went on a trip, you carried a larger tool box and spare parts and tires for reserves to make sure you got back withput the aid of a hook.

Modern day corvettes are great cars and the price of these cars is very reasonable compared to the releability and quickness and handling. Very hard to beat, regardless of which country's vehicles you want to compare them to.
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 09:38 AM
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i agree with these sentiments....nothing like a vette...
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 10:10 AM
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With Evil Twin. Can't beat a Corvette for quality, or speed for the price. I like taking care of the car and personalizing it to my taste. If I don't like something I'll change it.
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 10:11 AM
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I have never owned anything but American cars out of principle. Keep my dollars employing North Americans.
Over the years I have seen huge improvements in the american made automobile. At the moment I own a 1984 Z28, a 1987 Ford Thunderbird, and my 03 Aniversary Vette. The Camaro has had normal wear and tear repairs like starter, alternator, axle bearings, brakes, tires etc. None of these repairs have cost me more than $400 dollars (Canadian), try buying a Toyota alternator or starter, its scary. My T-Bird has had no problems, and the Vette has run 19,000 flawless Kilometers. I have raced all of these cars on the dragstrip, road track, and solo 1. No one can tell me that Americans dont make the best cars in the world. How many foreign cars will take this abuse and keep on rolling.
I feel Incredibly lucky to be able to buy a Farrari Killer for a fraction of the cost, and as some other people here have said there will always be a Vette in my garage.
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 400hp
I disagree with the quote that GM is behind on styling. One of the main reasons I bought a C5 was because of the styling. The performance was a given.
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 10:20 AM
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For the price there is nothing else that even comes close, and probably never will be
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 10:34 AM
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The C5 Corvette has great styling, performance, comfort, american heritage, bang for the buck, and most of all a great online forum.
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[QUOTE=C5dream]The C5 Corvette has great styling, performance, comfort, american heritage, bang

the only other thing I'll add to the list of things that makes this car great - it's the comraderie and friendships I've made with other Corvette people. Owning this car is the admission to a great group of caring and generous folks!
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 10:55 AM
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I know I've made right choice buying the "Vette" (even it has some flaws..lol), when people come up to me and say "Nice car, dude!"

Also, what fun is it to drive a Vette if you can't Mod/fix it?
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Originally Posted by C5dream
The C5 Corvette has great styling, performance, comfort, american heritage, bang

the only other thing I'll add to the list of things that makes this car great - it's the comraderie and friendships I've made with other Corvette people. Owning this car is the admission to a great group of caring and generous folks!

Here, here .
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