thats true too. shouldnt make a HUGE difference. im not sure about the gears on the SLP, but i know the only big difference is the intake, and the exhaust. the 6spds. got the hurst shifter as well.

go race and find out, if you make a bunch of runs, you will win some, and lose some.

 

I owned two WS6's before getting an '04 CE Coupe. Both were purchased new, an '00 & '02.

Both were pretty fast stock and M6's. They both managed mid 13's stock. The A4's were usually a tenth or two faster.
Our '02 dynoed at 325 with just the free ram air mod and a maf translator. Check out his mods before placing any bets.

I think it will come down to the driver if both vehicles are stock.

My wife misses the WS6's but she's more sentimental than I am. I prefer the vette.

Mark

 

The SLP WS6 (or SS for the Camaro) is mostly an appearance package. They do however add an upgraded cat-back exhaust (what's a cat-back really worth though in real world #'s?? ) and in some cases, an upgraded intake lid. Otherwise, NOTHING different power wise.

And if his is the A4, it's got either 2.73's or 3.23's.....more likely 3.23's if it's a WS6, but not necessarily.

 

My first post and I get sucked into this.

01/02 Automatic WS6's at Cecil County Raceway/MIR in MD were pulling as low as 12.90's stock (yes, stock down to the paper filter on street tires)

Not that I would ever bank on magizine times but, even GM High Tech performance drove a Stock 01 Z28 to 12.8 at 108 mph.

Automatic LS1 Fbody's are much quicker in the quarter than MN6's. An auto LS1 Fbody will bolt on solidly into the 11's. MN6 Fbody will bolton to very low 12's. These cars dynod well into the 300's stock (very under rated from the factory)

Make no mistake, a stock Automatic LS1 Fbody with (decent driver) will pull times closer to low thirteens than coming anywhere close to 14's at sea level.

I'm trying to figure out what he means by SLP WS6?????? Is it a Firehawk? Thats the only 02 WS6 that SLP modified. Even if it was an SLP Firehawk, that means that he has an SLP Lid maybe some thicker sway bars and some sort of exhuaust. Their exhast didn't really gain anything over the regular WS6 exhaust. I wouldn't be concerned about his, "SLP Claim" because it really doesn't mean anything and if he knew anything about SLP's relationship with Pontiac and the fact that they stopped modifying WS6's in 97 he would feel really stupid when you told him that he was full of ****. His claim is false.......

What mods does this guy have? Headers, Cut out, Lid, Nittos????????

I wouldn't count the Fbody out though. Stock for stock this race will come down to DRIVER and Launch.

 

This could be a very close race if both are stock. Don't count out the F-bodies, they can be very quick cars.

 

Gears are key in this race and 60 ft time. If you guys are running the 5 tenth tree stage as shallow as you can. Shallow being trip the first yellow light and than as soon as you trip the 2 yellow stop. Since you have an A4 stall it some but not enough to smoke the tires when you leave. When you are at the tree and you have staged when the last yellow comes on hit the GAS. Do not anticipate the last yellow or you will red light wait for it to light up. This should give you a great reaction time. A good reaction time can make or break you time. Are you guys racing 1/8 or ¼. Good luck.

 

You are kidding right? I used to own a 96 WS6 6M that ran 13.6's @ 104 with only a couple minor mods. I got my A$$ handed to me by completely stock LS1 F-Bodies that ran as good as 13.1's.

My guess is whoever has the best R/T will cross the finish line first. If either gets a good enough jump, I don't think the other will real em in within 1/4. It comes down to the driver.

my .02

 

what is it you mean trip the first yellow light?

anyways, answers to some of your questions, all of yours. since he goes to my school, i have seen his car, the SLP he said is just aftermarket exhaust and intake. his tires look like P.O.S's, and to add to it, ive never heard of his brand, i will check them and tell yall for sure about the tire brand. he claims different stories, to girls hes got A.M cam, headers, and TB spacer. but to the guys he just says its all stock. the difference between him and i is that he runs that car to the ground, everytime i see him hes burning out, flooring it, and abusing it. i, however dont burn out, drive the c5 respectivly, and treat it like a baby. the WS6 guy has raced an 04 G35 stock and beat him by a half car length. i have raced in my 94 vette a 99 integra with nos (and yes he did spray it) and i won, and i also raced a 03 Lancer Evo with stage 1 upgrades and stage 1 turbo, and beat him by a good 2 car lengths. in my 01 vette ive only raced a 02 standard vette and beat him, thats all. so with new tires and dual air intake is there anything i might could or should put on here within 2 weeks? i will be gone this weekend so that is why we will not race at the track, we will next weekend. but i will find out FOR SURE what mods if any he has. keep in mind, we are both automatics! so when the light turns yellow, should i hold the brake down and gas it to get the RPMs up? if so, what RPM? do i smoke the tires? or not hold the brake down? should i have traction control on or not? should i buy from Mid America a 12 octane boost liquid to add to my premium gas? when i race should i have full gas tank? yall please inform me what yall think! ASAP!

and yes it IS a 1/4 mile run!

 

WOW...after reading that last long post, i think i would just prefer to smack some sense into that dense little head of yours...

 

Where do you start? There are to yellow lights at the top of the tree. They tell you that are ready to go. Than you just wait for the tree to fall. Do a burn out before you roll up to the tree with stock tires is not going to really help you any. So if the WS6 does and he runs street tires just let him. You can lower the tire pressure some, maybe around 25 psi. Forget the octane booster and running less gas would be good but make sure that when you leave the track you can make it to the gas station. Traction Control should be off. Yes hold the brake down and the gas but not a lot. I don’t have a A4 so I can’t give you a rpm I would guess about 1500 rpm. It sounds like you are new to this so if you lose do not get upset. Some you will lose and some you will win. At least it is a GM and not a ford or a Honda. If I can help any shoot me a pm and I will try to help. I am not the best and there are a lot of things I can still learn but I will share what I know.

 

Like everyone else has said, "R-T's and how well you hook it." Good Luck and keep us posted. You know if you lose, you'll never ever hear the end of it.

 

Hate to bust your bubble but you have a real good chance of losing F-bodys are pretty closly matched to LS1 Vettes down the 1/4 mile with both cars having equal mods. Take him out on a road course and wax him there.. Then its no contest

 

You should take him if ou have the 3.15's. I had a 99 coupe and it ran 13.4's in the 1/4 which beat some ws6's that I saw run. I now have a 95 vert a4 3.07s and don't as k me how but it gets 13.2's which is faster than ws6's by a good bit.

you should take him fairly easy just get the launch right!

 

Mostly true statement...I own a 01 Firehawk and a 01 Z06 being the president of a local GM performance club I like em all...previous ride was a 500hp 72 nova and a 68 SS Nova with 396 and muncie 4 spd......

That being said I took my Firehawk to the track about 4 months ago...first time in a M6 at the track.( all other passes have been in a 3400 stalled, DR'ed 95 LT1 camaro Z28).......I ran a 13.3 bouncing off the rev limiter !!! It was so bad you could hear it on the video from the stands............ I believe it will be a drivers race.......

DYNO #'S STOCK

01 Firehawk I dynoed 316rwhp 334rwtq

01 Z06 I dynoed 339 rwhp 336rwtq

 

At least it inspired some discussion

 

 

Whelp, I kant zee u loozin az lon az uz startd frum a role.

VR

 

do yourself a favor and slap on a 50 shot before the race .. kick his @ss then remove it.

stock vs. stock .. drivers race.

 

Now that is funny ****!!!!!

Mr. Player, "yall" is not a word in the English language. Are you for real?

It scares the hell out of me to think that you are going to school in America and you can not construct a sentence. I would guess you are at least 16 yrs. old to be driving, maybe a jr. in high school?

Maybe you should give daddy back the car and spend some time "lur'n", yus gona nyd it whens yer daddy aint eround.

I can't imagine you being smart enough to have a job to pay for that car.

FYI, I just looked at your profile. You can't spell "the"? It's "T-H-E" not "T-H-A". Please get rid of that car.... before people think we all are as ignorant as you.

 

perhaps you should quit dissing him. .. yo.

Seriously, stop it. Everytime somebody from high school or anybody younger than fifty for that matter posts something with grammatical errors you feel the need to play the "everybody in high school in America is dumb" card. Personally I think it's sad "we need to do something about our children's education" what do you mean raise taxes to pay for it? what do you mean we have to cut city funding. Every year I see it more and more, the teachers working harder and getting paid less. Schools that were once an abundant source of new technologies and fresh books have become swamped with the burden of rising costs, overcrowding and a lack of funding.

that said .. i'm sure he can formulate a scentence if he wanted to but since when did the internet have a set of grammadical rules. Find me a place that says he has to speak any form of proper english while surfing the internet.

And "yall" is nothing more than geographic discourse, in this case southern discourse. So if one is from a southern state yall (or y'all) is an exceptable form of saying "you all"



pardon me if i come across rude however I used to have to endure this type of stereotyping and commenting and it's very uncalled for.