"Pop" radar?
Racer
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From: LA Cali
Originally Posted by Fastgenious
Unless you have a new V1 or just recently sent it in for an upgrade, the Bel RX65 Pro outperforms the older and newer V1. I just purchased one and it really is a nice detector. The older V1's are out dated but still are capable of saving you a few bucks...The Bel RX65 Pro, Escort 8500 X50 and new V1's are incredible compared to detectors from only a few years ago...
The RX65 loses in X and K band but beats the V1 by .2 miles in Ka band according to SML. The V1 is the only detector that alerted to laser when the car in front was shot with laser at 1/4 mile.
http://radarbusters.com/support/product-tests/2.asp
This site tells you that the V1 wins in X band but ties the RX65 and X50 in K and Ka band.
Also, the V1 has 2 antennas so it beat all other radar detectors by 2-3 miles in rear radar detection in SML's test.
The only sites that claim the RX65 or X50 is #1 are run by Craig Peterson (liar and BS artist) or sell the the RX65 or X50.
Last edited by RaDaRkInG; Jan 21, 2005 at 03:53 AM.
Le Mans Master
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From: Tampa FL
Originally Posted by Stock Man
All good to know. It's the first time I've heard of "Pop" radar. But I am glad to hear it's not recomended for use to issue a citation.
Racer
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From: LA Cali
Originally Posted by Neablas
it's not that it's not recommended, it's down right illegal. It specifically says in the manaul to not use the pop to issuse a citation. That it must be confirmed by a regular radar.
Winner: Courts $200+
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From: Tampa FL
Originally Posted by RaDaRkInG
It may be illegal but all a cop has to say is that you were speeding and its his word against yours.
Winner: Courts $200+
Winner: Courts $200+
also to the unmarked car pacing you comment, all you have to do is bring the police car's calibration into question (I learned this after I paid for mine) .. when was your car last calibrated? a month ago. so is it possible for it to be thrown out in that time? yes, it's possible. thank you. good bye.
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Remember, the Citation has to note how you were clocked. You have the right to ask the officer to specify methods, he has to give you this. Don't confuse this with thinking he has to show you the speed he clocked you. He does not have to do that.Several citations will read X-band,Ka,LIDAR, etc. Before signing your name check it and ask him to elaborate. If he will not, when you sign you name note on the citation, both copys, that he wouldn't give you the methods of speed detection.
Remember you have the right to ask him the radar gun type, when it was callobrated etc. Take notes when you get stopped and make the officer sign your notes. You can record the whole process, with his knowledge of course. All of these things can create doubt which will get you out of the ticket. The most important thing is get as much information you can and fight it.
The radarbusters website is very good, but remember, they are not selling the Valentine One so it is not a fair comparison. I have bought my Blinder M-40 from them and it is fantastic, but I went elsewhere to find information on the product.
Remember you have the right to ask him the radar gun type, when it was callobrated etc. Take notes when you get stopped and make the officer sign your notes. You can record the whole process, with his knowledge of course. All of these things can create doubt which will get you out of the ticket. The most important thing is get as much information you can and fight it.
The radarbusters website is very good, but remember, they are not selling the Valentine One so it is not a fair comparison. I have bought my Blinder M-40 from them and it is fantastic, but I went elsewhere to find information on the product.
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Rocketdawg, if you find out whats going on this weekend let me know. I could be interested. Thanks all for all the good info. I have the latest version of the V1 before they started installing the "Pop" mode. It's $55 for the upgrade which i'll gladly pay, just worred about additional false alarms. V1 "pop" users: do you notice more false alarms? Thanks for enlightening me about the Bel.
Racer
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Originally Posted by RaDaRkInG
http://radarbusters.com/support/spee...ector-test.asp
The RX65 loses in X and K band but beats the V1 by .2 miles in Ka band according to SML. The V1 is the only detector that alerted to laser when the car in front was shot with laser at 1/4 mile.
http://radarbusters.com/support/product-tests/2.asp
This site tells you that the V1 wins in X band but ties the RX65 and X50 in K and Ka band.
Also, the V1 has 2 antennas so it beat all other radar detectors by 2-3 miles in rear radar detection in SML's test.
The only sites that claim the RX65 or X50 is #1 are run by Craig Peterson (liar and BS artist) or sell the the RX65 or X50.
The RX65 loses in X and K band but beats the V1 by .2 miles in Ka band according to SML. The V1 is the only detector that alerted to laser when the car in front was shot with laser at 1/4 mile.
http://radarbusters.com/support/product-tests/2.asp
This site tells you that the V1 wins in X band but ties the RX65 and X50 in K and Ka band.
Also, the V1 has 2 antennas so it beat all other radar detectors by 2-3 miles in rear radar detection in SML's test.
The only sites that claim the RX65 or X50 is #1 are run by Craig Peterson (liar and BS artist) or sell the the RX65 or X50.
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I've got a slightly older V1 (purchased in late '01) and I'm thinking of upgrading it to get POP protection. I got a ticket in NH in October while driving my brother's S4, equipped with a 2 year old V1. The thing never made a peep. The officer said he had me on radar so I assume he was using POP if he wasn't flat out lying. I'm leaning toward the lying side though because I was passing, and he said I was going 8 mph faster than I could have been going in the gear I was in. He also had to have shot me from a 90 degree angle (because that was his only line of site), which simply can't work. Moral of the story? Detecting them hardly matters when they are willing to lie through their teeth. I'm still going to upgrade my V1, but I'd love to know if anyone has trouble with false alarms. Honestly with all the instant on and POP and laser out there these radar detectors just aren't enough. I want something that's really going to save my butt every time, not just often enough to give me a false sense of security.
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Originally Posted by SEAMOORE
Rocketdawg, if you find out whats going on this weekend let me know. I could be interested. Thanks all for all the good info. I have the latest version of the V1 before they started installing the "Pop" mode. It's $55 for the upgrade which i'll gladly pay, just worred about additional false alarms. V1 "pop" users: do you notice more false alarms? Thanks for enlightening me about the Bel.
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Originally Posted by bovette
Remember, the Citation has(?) to note how you were clocked. You have the right to ask the officer to specify methods, he has(?) to give you this. Don't confuse this with thinking he has to show you the speed he clocked you. He does not have to do that.Several citations will read X-band,Ka,LIDAR, etc. Before signing your name check it and ask him to elaborate. If he will not, when you sign you name note on the citation, both copys, that he wouldn't give you the methods of speed detection.
Remember you have the right to ask him the radar gun type, when it was callobrated etc. Take notes when you get stopped and make(?) the officer sign your notes. You can record the whole process, with his knowledge of course. All of these things can create doubt which will get you out of the ticket. The most important thing is get as much information you can and fight it.
The radarbusters website is very good, but remember, they are not selling the Valentine One so it is not a fair comparison. I have bought my Blinder M-40 from them and it is fantastic, but I went elsewhere to find information on the product.
Remember you have the right to ask him the radar gun type, when it was callobrated etc. Take notes when you get stopped and make(?) the officer sign your notes. You can record the whole process, with his knowledge of course. All of these things can create doubt which will get you out of the ticket. The most important thing is get as much information you can and fight it.
The radarbusters website is very good, but remember, they are not selling the Valentine One so it is not a fair comparison. I have bought my Blinder M-40 from them and it is fantastic, but I went elsewhere to find information on the product.
Maybe a few too many "hases" and/or "makes" there don't ya think? 
BTW, in Texas you can record someone (including the officer) without their permission as long as you are party to the conversation. You must however, reveal the fact that you are recording someone if they ask. It is illegal to record someone when you are not known to the party(s) being recorded. A number of LEO's here carry recorders on their Sam Brown belts disguised as ammo puches, etc. in order to protect themselves from false allegations etc.
