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Drifting
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From: Carson City, NV
Just want to make sure I have got it correct. In reply to the following question What can happen then if my CLB gets out of sync? You said
"If you have a newer C5 (2001-2004) OR you've had the recall implemented, you will NOT be able to drive your car because the fuel will be shut off at speeds above 2 mph."
I assume this means for my 2004 ZO6 there is no work around for this problem, true?"
Thanks for the great work!
"If you have a newer C5 (2001-2004) OR you've had the recall implemented, you will NOT be able to drive your car because the fuel will be shut off at speeds above 2 mph."
I assume this means for my 2004 ZO6 there is no work around for this problem, true?"
Thanks for the great work!
John
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Drifting
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From: Carson City, NV
John
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Pro
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From: Lenexa Kansas
An update on my situation... I spoke with Christopher at Corvettes of Houston yesterday. I found him to be extremely knowledgeable and friendly. He assured me that his CLB will work only if my car is operating normally. He also assured me that my local dealer very well could have confirmed that my actuator was bad by doing a diagnostics, and that them splitting the bill with me is a pretty good deal, considering my situation. I ordered his CLB, and I'm going to call the dealer on Monday and ask that they replace the actuator so my car will be back up and running. I'll get that CLB in place of the K-harness as soon as I get it. Christopher also said I should put a few miles on the car before installing the CLB, so that any lingering signals make their way out of the system (that's my layman's interpretation of what he told me).
Intermediate
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From: arlington wa
John: Very much appreciate your continued involvement in this issue -- your imput has been very helpfull -- I've got a 2000 A4 -- simular event -- first recall installed on 4/05 -- condition on 7/07 -- low battery -- error messages on the DIC -- fuel shut off when wheels turned -- replaced bad battery --checked all the fuse sequences -- finally removed the K-harness -- condition disappeared -- car runs perfect -- ordered the CBL yesterday to cover the --just in case the the still active actuator (with no plate) goes bad -- what chance do you think the fuel shut off would ever reoccure?? --Thanks- Jake
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Drifting
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From: Carson City, NV
John: Very much appreciate your continued involvement in this issue -- your imput has been very helpfull -- I've got a 2000 A4 -- simular event -- first recall installed on 4/05 -- condition on 7/07 -- low battery -- error messages on the DIC -- fuel shut off when wheels turned -- replaced bad battery --checked all the fuse sequences -- finally removed the K-harness -- condition disappeared -- car runs perfect -- ordered the CBL yesterday to cover the --just in case the the still active actuator (with no plate) goes bad -- what chance do you think the fuel shut off would ever reoccure?? --Thanks- Jake
Anytime your BCM is not happy, your fuel is shut off and you'll be stranded. So as long as your K Harness OR your CLB are working ok, then you won't have to worry about the fuel shut off problem. Also, once you install the CLB, your actuator will no longer be energized, so nothing to worry about there.
Cheers,
John
Drifting
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New to the CLB Game
Hi, After nearly exhausting myself reading up on this column lock stuff, I'd like to pose one question. I just bought my 1998. the day before I was to pick it up the column lock went nuts and he took it to the dealer. 
He calls says they did a recall and all is well. This car is a 1998. It has now had the first recall done in 05 and now the K-harness has been put in. I got the 'pull key wait 10 seconds message' and fuel kill the day after i got it home. I nearly cried. I waited a few moments and started it up again and all was fine. All is still fine, but I'm wondering if the solution is fixed or if I am going to continue to have issues. Any suggestions on the best plan of action?
He calls says they did a recall and all is well. This car is a 1998. It has now had the first recall done in 05 and now the K-harness has been put in. I got the 'pull key wait 10 seconds message' and fuel kill the day after i got it home. I nearly cried. I waited a few moments and started it up again and all was fine. All is still fine, but I'm wondering if the solution is fixed or if I am going to continue to have issues. Any suggestions on the best plan of action?
Melting Slicks
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From: Westchester County New York
Hi, After nearly exhausting myself reading up on this column lock stuff, I'd like to pose one question. I just bought my 1998. the day before I was to pick it up the column lock went nuts and he took it to the dealer. He calls says they did a recall and all is well. This car is a 1998. It has now had the first recall done in 05 and now the K-harness has been put in. I got the 'pull key wait 10 seconds message' and fuel kill the day after i got it home. I nearly cried. I waited a few moments and started it up again and all was fine. All is still fine, but I'm wondering if the solution is fixed or if I am going to continue to have issues. Any suggestions on the best plan of action?
He calls says they did a recall and all is well. This car is a 1998. It has now had the first recall done in 05 and now the K-harness has been put in. I got the 'pull key wait 10 seconds message' and fuel kill the day after i got it home. I nearly cried. I waited a few moments and started it up again and all was fine. All is still fine, but I'm wondering if the solution is fixed or if I am going to continue to have issues. Any suggestions on the best plan of action?
Heel & Toe
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From: La Costa California
My 01 M6 has the problem. Called my Chevy dealer. The recall had been done. Ordered a CLB from Corvetts of Houston. They say not to remove recall mod, just install CLB. If you go th their site, you'll see that the CLB is their TOP SELLING PART!!! Unbelieveable..
Gary
Gary
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Melting Slicks
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From: Westchester County New York
I did not remove the recall mod..just installed the CLB...great piece of mind..great product....
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Drifting
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From: Carson City, NV
Cheers,
John
Heel & Toe
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From: La Costa California
John, You say to remove the K harness, Corvettes of Houston says to just install the CLB, leave everything else alone. ??:
Drifting
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shows where it comes from and who serviced it. The underside and underhood is spooky clean though.
I've noticed all 4 times the car was warm, IE I drove it to the shop, drove it to get groceries etc.... should that point to somewhere to start checking before the CLB? I don't want any "issues" with bad BCM etc.. those posts about the CLB killing stuff scares the **** out of me!
Chris
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Melting Slicks
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From: Westchester County New York
Ditto, a little explanation? My CL hell isn't over. I am going to just order the damned CLB. The K-harness is installed and four times today I got pull key wait 10 seconds. Twice when the mechanic (not dealer unfortunately) was pulling it onto the lift for an oil change. Anything else I should check before getting a CLB? My dad's 2000 A4 has no CLB and has no zero issues, mine is realllly pissing me off now! I think I'll replace the battery, the last owner decided a farm and fleet acid battery was a good idea...
shows where it comes from and who serviced it. The underside and underhood is spooky clean though.
I've noticed all 4 times the car was warm, IE I drove it to the shop, drove it to get groceries etc.... should that point to somewhere to start checking before the CLB? I don't want any "issues" with bad BCM etc.. those posts about the CLB killing stuff scares the **** out of me!
Chris
shows where it comes from and who serviced it. The underside and underhood is spooky clean though.
I've noticed all 4 times the car was warm, IE I drove it to the shop, drove it to get groceries etc.... should that point to somewhere to start checking before the CLB? I don't want any "issues" with bad BCM etc.. those posts about the CLB killing stuff scares the **** out of me!
Chris
One ? though...hows your battery? Some have had issues with weak batteries and getting the pull key message...I didnt want to take any chances so i got the new Sears Platinum AGM Battery...love it....hth...
Drifting
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Im by no means an expert at this just can impart my experience with it....as I said in a previous post..I had the recall..a few weeks later had the pull key message...put in the COH CLB (without removing anything to do with the recall) and havent had an issue since...
One ? though...hows your battery? Some have had issues with weak batteries and getting the pull key message...I didnt want to take any chances so i got the new Sears Platinum AGM Battery...love it....hth...
One ? though...hows your battery? Some have had issues with weak batteries and getting the pull key message...I didnt want to take any chances so i got the new Sears Platinum AGM Battery...love it....hth...
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Drifting
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From: Carson City, NV
John
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From: Lenexa Kansas
Hi, After nearly exhausting myself reading up on this column lock stuff, I'd like to pose one question. I just bought my 1998. the day before I was to pick it up the column lock went nuts and he took it to the dealer. He calls says they did a recall and all is well. This car is a 1998. It has now had the first recall done in 05 and now the K-harness has been put in. I got the 'pull key wait 10 seconds message' and fuel kill the day after i got it home. I nearly cried. I waited a few moments and started it up again and all was fine. All is still fine, but I'm wondering if the solution is fixed or if I am going to continue to have issues. Any suggestions on the best plan of action?
He calls says they did a recall and all is well. This car is a 1998. It has now had the first recall done in 05 and now the K-harness has been put in. I got the 'pull key wait 10 seconds message' and fuel kill the day after i got it home. I nearly cried. I waited a few moments and started it up again and all was fine. All is still fine, but I'm wondering if the solution is fixed or if I am going to continue to have issues. Any suggestions on the best plan of action?
Drifting
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I would strongly suggest you buy the CLB at this point. I had the most recent recall donein February this year, and I got the pull key warning about 6 times since then. The last one resulted in the service column lock failure, and I had to have it towed in for a new actuator (even though they aren't used after the recall to lock the column, they have to be operational, because they are still in teh loop). GM covered half the install/parts/tow, but I still had to pay $241. I have a CLB on order from Corvettes of Houston; their helpful tech told me if my car is working (ie no service column lock error) when I install it, I'll be fine. But it for $45 and don't regret it like I did. I figured I was fine because I had the recall; stoopid, stupid, styoupidd!!!
Drifting
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From: somewhere in New Hampshire
This sounds like excellent advice to me. Mine hadn't had the 2nd recall, so I just went ahead and installed the CLB and have had no problems yet. Good luck guys, I'm keeping my eye on this thread to see if anyone comes up with a way to remove the fuel shut-off code without impacting the rev limiter and anti-theft system.
Racer
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From: Sahuarita AZ
I have a 1998 mn6 with 25,000 miles on it. No one has been able to explain or help me with the CLB issue. I have tried three different CLB relays with the pull key error always coming back. I have even tried the K harness which gave more error codes. I have pulled fuses many times to reset the system. The only thing that has helped is my tuner programed the PCM to cut off the fuel at 198 mph. The error code comes up but I can still drive the car at any speed. I have, however, unhooked the CLB so I do not have to look at the DIC flashing the error message. All I ever here is the 1997and 1998 PCM is fussey. What a bunch of BS.
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Drifting
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From: Carson City, NV
I have a 1998 mn6 with 25,000 miles on it. No one has been able to explain or help me with the CLB issue. I have tried three different CLB relays with the pull key error always coming back. I have even tried the K harness which gave more error codes. I have pulled fuses many times to reset the system. The only thing that has helped is my tuner programed the PCM to cut off the fuel at 198 mph. The error code comes up but I can still drive the car at any speed. I have, however, unhooked the CLB so I do not have to look at the DIC flashing the error message. All I ever here is the 1997and 1998 PCM is fussey. What a bunch of BS.
2. Check the Black wire going to your CLB and make sure it is grounded.
John