Downshift to 1st problem
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Downshift to 1st problem
M6: had a problem shifting into 2nd this morning - popped out of second then wouldn't go in easily when I tried again, now I can seem to downshift into first. It seems like I have to pull the shifter way left to get it in gear, wont go on 1st try but will on the second attempt.
Clutch feels normal. Any ideas? Are there any adjustments that could be needed? or could Syncros be damaged or need replacing?
Thanks
Clutch feels normal. Any ideas? Are there any adjustments that could be needed? or could Syncros be damaged or need replacing?
Thanks
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Downshift at what speed?
When you say trouble getting into 2nd - what did it feel like - just didn't engage? Didn't feel like it went far enough? Any apparent grinding?
Does the shifter feel loose? (like something's recently changed?) Could be a problem with the shifter itself - that'd be easy.
Could be synchros as mentioned. 1-2 synchros take a beating on the street because we all love those nice jaunts up to the speed limit...the 1-2s went out on my '01 after 17k (albeit with some abuse - I was much easier on the new ones)
When you say trouble getting into 2nd - what did it feel like - just didn't engage? Didn't feel like it went far enough? Any apparent grinding?
Does the shifter feel loose? (like something's recently changed?) Could be a problem with the shifter itself - that'd be easy.
Could be synchros as mentioned. 1-2 synchros take a beating on the street because we all love those nice jaunts up to the speed limit...the 1-2s went out on my '01 after 17k (albeit with some abuse - I was much easier on the new ones)
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What speed? There is no reason you should ever downshift into first gear. Even if your going 2 mph it would be difficult.
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Originally Posted by yellow01
Downshift at what speed?
When you say trouble getting into 2nd - what did it feel like - just didn't engage? Didn't feel like it went far enough? Any apparent grinding?
Does the shifter feel loose? (like something's recently changed?) Could be a problem with the shifter itself - that'd be easy.
Could be synchros as mentioned. 1-2 synchros take a beating on the street because we all love those nice jaunts up to the speed limit...the 1-2s went out on my '01 after 17k (albeit with some abuse - I was much easier on the new ones)
When you say trouble getting into 2nd - what did it feel like - just didn't engage? Didn't feel like it went far enough? Any apparent grinding?
Does the shifter feel loose? (like something's recently changed?) Could be a problem with the shifter itself - that'd be easy.
Could be synchros as mentioned. 1-2 synchros take a beating on the street because we all love those nice jaunts up to the speed limit...the 1-2s went out on my '01 after 17k (albeit with some abuse - I was much easier on the new ones)
car always downshifted into 1st real easy, I usually downshift in parking lots etc, at say 15 MPH -I have never had anything but smooth and easy downshifts, not if feels completely different (20 K on a 2000 btw)
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Originally Posted by Cajundude
What speed? There is no reason you should ever downshift into first gear. Even if your going 2 mph it would be difficult.
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Originally Posted by Cajundude
What speed? There is no reason you should ever downshift into first gear. Even if your going 2 mph it would be difficult.
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Originally Posted by Cajundude
What speed? There is no reason you should ever downshift into first gear. Even if your going 2 mph it would be difficult.
If you're in the proper speed range, I can't imagine why you shouldn't or couldn't. No different than downshifting to any other gear.
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Originally Posted by Monster231
Im not sure your suppose to downshift into first, The trans may be blocking you out
The owner's manual recommends shifting into 1st whenever you need to, for example after you've been driving a while, you stop, and they suggest you downshift into 1st to get going again.
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Originally Posted by Cajundude
What speed? There is no reason you should ever downshift into first gear. Even if your going 2 mph it would be difficult.
Every driving school teaches that, and every one of the new sequential gear shift boxes will, in auto mode, downshift into first while the car is still rolling. That's the whole point -- it's easier to get into first while you're still rolling a bit.
And, oh, I've got about 300,000 miles of manual transmission driving, and have yet to replace either a clutch, or a syncro. I know what works.
