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Old Mar 29, 2005 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 03Ragtop
Wait a minute. This is C5Tech not Gen? WTF is technical about changing oil?
4 some people changing oil and new floor mats is a Tech thing
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Mods, please dont this thread. Move it to OT please

nah OT would kill him
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Old Mar 29, 2005 | 09:14 PM
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FWIW...

AMSOIL recommends changing filters at more frequent intervals than changing their oil - considers it a waste of money to change both at mfg suggested intervals.



http://www.go-synthetic.com/oil_change/oil_change.htm

"AMSOIL Synthetic Motor Oil, in gas aspirated engines, is RECOMMENDED to run for 25,000 miles or one year (5W-30, 10W-30, 10W-40) in a mechanically sound engine, providing of course, the oil is kept free of contaminants by changing the oil filter according to the manufacturer's recommendation or, when using an AMSOIL Oil Filter, changing the filter at six months or 12,500 miles which ever comes first. "



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"Why does AMSOIL say to change the AMSOIL SDF Oil Filter at six months regardless of the mileage."


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"Once an engine is run with new oil, byproducts of combustion are introduced into the oil. These byproducts are harmful chemicals that continue to degrade the integrity of the motor oil as well as the oil filter media even though the engine may be off. This is why a time limit is published as well as mileage. Short trip driving can be just as detrimental to motor oil and filters as high mileage use, and even more so in some cases. It’s possible that the oil is still intact at the end of the published time limit..."

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Originally Posted by 04MSGCoupe
I'm in the group that believes in changing the oil and filter based on the oil life % indicated on the DIC. I estimate I should get about 8000 miles by the time the oil life % reaches 0. I'm not worried about the oil lasting that long, but I am concerned about the filter doing its job for that many miles. What's your opinions on changing just the oil filter at say 50% oil life remaining? Is this a good idea?
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Well, I think that you got your answer on whether CF members thought it was a good idea. However, since you seemed to question or challenge everyone's supplied opinion, I think that you should follow your belief and change the filter between oil changes. Hey, it is your car.
No man it's not that easy. Do what I do and rebuild your engine every 3,000 miles. In that respect you'll always have fresh oil, but you'll still have to remember to change that nasty old oil filter.
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KRK....serious question...would you do it??

I mean really...when it gets down to it would you do what AMSOIL says? If you do and for some reason it doesn't work out for you who is left holding the bill?? Personally I don't doubt they did all the research etc. and what they say is true..just not willing to try it myself. Of course I am not gonna change the filter half way thru either but thats just me being an azz
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Old Mar 29, 2005 | 09:36 PM
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I put on too few miles a year to worry about the recommended intervals, I go more by the 12 month shelf life theory w/ my Mobil 1.

But I also wouldn't belilttle someone repeatedly over what they consider a serious question, and which is supported by a company that many on this forum consider a leader in the industry.

And as for them not doing their research...

"Amsoil coined the phrase "extended drain interval" and it's been validated by almost 30 years of industry testing and by hundreds of thousands of motorists and millions of over-the-road miles."
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Old Mar 29, 2005 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by KRK
I put on too few miles a year to worry about the recommended intervals, I go more by the 12 month shelf life theory w/ my Mobil 1.

But I also wouldn't belilttle someone repeatedly over what they consider a serious question, and which is supported by a company that many on this forum consider a leader in the industry.

And as for them not doing their research...

"Amsoil coined the phrase "extended drain interval" and it's been validated by almost 30 years of industry testing and by hundreds of thousands of motorists and millions of over-the-road miles."
Well said.

While really not meaning to stir the pot, I do think you guys... and gal are being a little hard on the original poster. I thought he had a legitimate question.

FWIW, here is the exact AMSOIL Product Change Interval Guide.
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Old Mar 29, 2005 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 04MSGCoupe
Well I might as well tell you all, I was trying to get this into the Guinness Book of World Records. Thanks for everyone's help.
YOU HAVE AT LEAST A 1000 MORE POSTS TOGO.It'll never happen
and as far as amsoil goes, it's overhyped.

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Old Mar 29, 2005 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by BEEN THERE
YOU HAVE AT LEAST A 1000 MORE POSTS TOGO.It'll never happen
and as far as amsoil goes, it's overhyped.
He will have the 1000 posts by tomorrow night!
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Originally Posted by 04MSGCoupe
Oh that's right, I've got to remember that pewter99 is smarter than all the engineers at AMSOIL.
so have you thought about changing the air in your tires in between fill ups ? In the span of 46 post you have made yourself look like a tool.... pissed of many folks who have been here longer than you.
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I don't know about anyone else, but I've got this sudden urge for a six pack of oil and a case of filters to go!
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 04MSGCoupe
Yeah I might just do that. I really like doing extra work and spending more money than I need to LIKE EVERYONE ELSE here. Thanks for your recommendation.
If you are worried about spending $30.00 on oil then you may want to sell your vette and ride a bicycle!!!

WOW removing that drain plug while your lying under the car is soooooo much extra work!!
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Originally Posted by 04MSGCoupe
Oh that's right, I've got to remember that pewter99 is smarter than all the engineers at AMSOIL.

reading is fundamental.....I said I didn't doubt them I just wouldn't do it in my car....


once again you prove my point.......you argue with every reply.


why not just give up and realize that everyone here just doesn't agree with you?


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Originally Posted by 04MSGCoupe
I'm in the group that believes in changing the oil and filter based on the oil life % indicated on the DIC. I estimate I should get about 8000 miles by the time the oil life % reaches 0. I'm not worried about the oil lasting that long, but I am concerned about the filter doing its job for that many miles. What's your opinions on changing just the oil filter at say 50% oil life remaining? Is this a good idea?
No, this is from the Mobil 1 oil website. The one thing they don't say about extended oil drain intervals is that you must ensure your air filter is good and the seal is good. As we would say in the Army this is a daily inspective item. http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/.../Homepage.aspx

What is the difference between Mobil 1® Extended Performance and the currently available Mobil 1?


If Mobil 1 Extended Performance is recommended for 15,000-mile intervals, what’s the maximum limit to which it can be pushed? In other words, if a driver goes an extra 1,000 miles or so, is he going to damage his engine?


Does the Mobil 1 Extended Performance meet GF-4 specifications? How did the new specification impact the development of the high-endurance product line?


Do I need to flush my engine before switching to Mobil 1 Extended Performance?


Upon what driving conditions are these performance claims based? Normal or severe driving conditions?


If I go longer between oil change intervals, do I need to change my oil filter more frequently? Or do I need a special filter?


To achieve the best peace of mind related to engine protection, many vehicle owners change their engine oils every 3,000 to 4,000 miles. Is this practice rendered meaningless with the advent of the Mobil high-endurance oils?


What's the difference between Mobil 1 and Mobil 1 Extended Performance?

What is the difference between Mobil 1® Extended Performance and the currently available Mobil 1?

Mobil 1 Extended Performance formulas are designed specifically for today's longer service intervals and are guaranteed to protect for up to 15,000 miles or one year.

Mobil 1 Extended Performance has a unique formulation with boosted level of protection and performance. These formulations with the Advanced SuperSyn System contain 50 percent more SuperSyn, 36 percent more anti-wear additives, and 37 percent more cleaning agents than the current Mobil 1.

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If Mobil 1 Extended Performance is recommended for 15,000-mile intervals, what’s the maximum limit to which it can be pushed? In other words, if a driver goes an extra 1,000 miles or so, is he going to damage his engine?

Mobil 1 Extended Performance is recommended for up to 15,000-mile or one-year oil change intervals. However, if your vehicle manufacturer recommends an oil change interval beyond 15,000 miles and Mobil 1 meets the performance level specified, you can be assured that Mobil 1 will go the distance.

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Does the Mobil 1 Extended Performance meet GF-4 specifications? How did the new specification impact the development of the high-endurance product line?

Mobil 1 Extended Performance contains extra performance additives to deliver exceptional performance and protection. This fully synthetic technology is designed specifically for longer service intervals. While it does not meet all the requirements for GF-4, it provides protection of the critical engine parts well beyond conventional engine oils including conventional GF-4 engine oils, and meets all the engine durability and protection requirements for GF-4. Additionally, Mobil 1 Extended Performance oils exceed the requirements of API SL/CF and various ACEA (European) specifications.

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Do I need to flush my engine before switching to Mobil 1 Extended Performance?

You do not need to flush your engine prior to changing to Mobil 1 Extended Performance.

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Upon what driving conditions are these performance claims based? Normal or severe driving conditions?

These claims relate to all typical consumer driving conditions, excluding those mentioned below. In other words, if you drive under normal conditions and use Mobil 1 Extended Performance in your vehicle, the oil is guaranteed to protect your engine for 15,000 miles. We also recommend that drivers consult their owner’s manual while their vehicle is under warranty, and follow the guidelines set forth there. Additionally, we recommend that if consumers drive routinely in severe conditions that they follow the oil change interval recommended in their owner's manual for severe conditions. We define "severe conditions" as:

racing or commercial applications;

frequent towing or hauling;

extremely dusty or dirty conditions; or

excessive idling.



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If I go longer between oil change intervals, do I need to change my oil filter more frequently? Or do I need a special filter?

Continue to change your oil filter when you change your engine oil. Special filters, or more frequent oil filter changes are not required.

However, Mobil 1 Oil Filters provide outstanding performance during longer oil change intervals. Mobil 1 Oil Filters are designed to offer excellent efficiency (remove more engine oil impurities) and high capacity (60 percent greater capacity than conventional oil filters), which make them ideal candidates for longer oil change intervals.
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To achieve the best peace of mind related to engine protection, many vehicle owners change their engine oils every 3,000 to 4,000 miles. Is this practice rendered meaningless with the advent of the Mobil high-endurance oils?

No, consumers should continue their current maintenance practices. They can now achieve peace of mind knowing the guaranteed performance and protection intervals of the new Mobil line of high-endurance oils. Mobil Clean 5000, Mobil Clean 7500, and Mobil 1 Extended Performance protect critical engine parts from lubricant-related failure for 5,000/7,500/15,000 miles - guaranteed.

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What's the difference between Mobil 1 and Mobil 1 Extended Performance?

Mobil 1 with SuperSyn technology exceeds the latest industry and OEM requirements. It is designed for vehicles under warranty and will provide protection for the maximum oil change interval recommended in your owner's manual or by your oil life sensor. Mobil 1 is designed for excellent low temperature and high temperature operation. It is designed to provide the maximum drain interval as recommended in your owner's manual. Mobil 1 Extended Performance is guaranteed to protect your engine for 15,000 miles or one year, whichever comes first.

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CPT Z06....ya know he is gonna debate that
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CPT Z06....ya know he is gonna debate that
Well it's all about piece of mind. But with modern ring and engine building technology's, oil, filter, and gas formulas; if a company that sells a $10 filter and $5 quart of oil says you can go 15K miles then I would believe them. Also, I have not read this entire thread, just the first part.

When I worked at autozone in 93-96 Mobil 1's literature said you could go 12 months/12K miles. Then they dropped that and said to go with what your manufacture states. Now they are back to their own mileage policy again. I think it has something to do with the politics of so many different manufactures starting to use them in the 90s. They didn't want to contradict the owners Manuels.
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Originally Posted by CPT Z06
Well it's all about piece of mind. But with modern ring and engine building technology's, oil, filter, and gas formulas; if a company that sells a $10 filter and $5 quart of oil says you can go 15K miles then I would believe them. Also, I have not read this entire thread, just the first part.

When I worked at autozone in 93-96 Mobil 1's literature said you could go 12 months/12K miles. Then they dropped that and said to go with what your manufacture states. Now they are back to their own mileage policy again. I think it has something to do with the politics of so many different manufactures starting to use them in the 90s. They didn't want to contradict the owners Manuels.

Yeah I can see the conflict between oil companies and auto makers. You and I both know that if a customer has an issue its gonna come down to what the manufacturer says in the manual for warranty issues etc. Alot of the new cars have 7500 listed in the owners manual which I think goes back to what you stated about the filters being more capable to go the distance which kinda supports the arguement of why change it half way thru.
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You asked a question and asked for opinions.

Funny once others gave you their opinions you became defensive. Then you decide your only defense is to insult others who have a different opinion.

It turns out you did not want opinions after all, why did you ask for them then?

BTW I am a "lady"

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