Electronic Column Lock System
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FWIW...there are hundreds of threads here about the GM fix failing..IMO and many, many others here it is better to just do the CLB (Column lock bypass) and be done with it...did mine 4 years ago and never an issue since....it will take you 30 minutes max which is far less than the trip to the dealer will take and you know its done.....
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FWIW...there are hundreds of threads here about the GM fix failing..IMO and many, many others here it is better to just do the CLB (Column lock bypass) and be done with it...did mine 4 years ago and never an issue since....it will take you 30 minutes max which is far less than the trip to the dealer will take and you know its done.....
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On my MN6, it took 5 minutes to do the recall and 15 minutes for the tech to do the paperwork. The next day I installed the CLB anyway. Only reason I had the recall done is for liability protection. If you refuse to have it done and someone somehow gets injured, guess who will be liable.
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Originally Posted by Nitro Junkie
On my MN6, it took 5 minutes to do the recall and 15 minutes for the tech to do the paperwork. The next day I installed the CLB anyway. Only reason I had the recall done is for liability protection. If you refuse to have it done and someone somehow gets injured, guess who will be liable.
Not being a smartazz but how would someone get hurt?? The thing only engages (supposedly) when the car is parked....it seems to me they have a better chance of getting sued for the damn thing not working properly to begin with.....also since you installed a CLB anyway which defeats the CLB from working aren't you in the same boat as not having the recall done and just doing the CLB. I signed a waiver at the dealer to remove the open campaign on my car for the recall.
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Originally Posted by pewter99
Not being a smartazz but how would someone get hurt?? The thing only engages (supposedly) when the car is parked....it seems to me they have a better chance of getting sued for the damn thing not working properly to begin with.....also since you installed a CLB anyway which defeats the CLB from working aren't you in the same boat as not having the recall done and just doing the CLB. I signed a waiver at the dealer to remove the open campaign on my car for the recall.
The lock has the potential of locking while driving. Thats the danger.
I would not sign a waiver for anything like that. My A4 was done a few years ago. You can still hear the pin motor move, but the plate was removed.
I also have heard they finally have the "right" fix for the M6s. We'll see.
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I had my CL lockup on me at least twice. Purchased the CL Bypass from Thunder Racing; 30-minutes to install. No worries.
BTW, I don't go to the dealer for anything that has to do with my car.
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BTW, I don't go to the dealer for anything that has to do with my car.
Phil
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Originally Posted by screw991le
The lock has the potential of locking while driving. Thats the danger.
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How can it lockup while driving if the only two times it functions is at startup and shutdown?
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Originally Posted by COHMATT
How can it lockup while driving if the only two times it functions is at startup and shutdown?
Thats what the reacll notice says,
"has potential to fail while driving"
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Originally Posted by lost
If you have an automatic about two hours, my service advisor said there was an updated fix on the 6-speeds but did not get into the details,,
Anybody have info on this supposed "updated fix" for the M6??? For the time being, I carry the tools to undo the column cover and a rubber hammer to whack the column. Its unlocked my column the 2x I had to do it, but I'm afraid if the lock motor itself seizes no amount of beating will do.
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Originally Posted by screw991le
The lock has the potential of locking while driving. Thats the danger.
It would be a danger if this was true. But the truth is, there has not been one proven case of a documented column lock while the car was moving. Many people can claim this happened but for some reason can't prove it. The system just has to many safeguards to prevent a column lock while the car is moving.
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Not being a smartazz but how would someone get hurt?? The thing only engages (supposedly) when the car is parked
How can it lockup while driving if the only two times it functions is at startup and shutdown?
There are a few different ways the column lock mechanism fails... and one them is that it can engage while driving.
Last edited by Mike Mercury; May 10, 2005 at 06:05 PM.
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Originally Posted by Mike Mercury
There are valid reports that some mechanisms have engaged while driving. It happened to one of our very own forum members not that long ago.
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Well, I have an a-4 and an appointmen tomorrow morning for gm to fix it.
I should be o.k. with that ..right?I mean the m-6's are the issue as I understand it.
Btw..what about this waiver thing...tell me more!
I should be o.k. with that ..right?I mean the m-6's are the issue as I understand it.
Btw..what about this waiver thing...tell me more!
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Well I believe it is certainly *possible* that the lock can engage while driving- BUT the possibility is very slim. Since our computer is so electronics based, if the BCM that controls the lock mechanism screws up, I can totally see that happening-
HOWEVER, it is MORE possible that something else happens like your brakes fail, wheel falls off of car, control arm breaks etc... I'm not worried about it locking up while driving.
HOWEVER, it is MORE possible that something else happens like your brakes fail, wheel falls off of car, control arm breaks etc... I'm not worried about it locking up while driving.
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Originally Posted by eRiCdWoNg
Well I believe it is certainly *possible* that the lock can engage while driving- BUT the possibility is very slim.
And you base this on what information? It's not even possible because there are multiple safeguards in place. If it was possible and it only happened once where people were killed, GM would be ruined or at the very least suffer a major financial loss from the court cases. GM may screw many things up but, they are smart enough not to let this happen.
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You didn't quote the rest of my post that makes mention of how distant this possbility is. I base this information that the fact that the car is MAN MADE and is controlled by a BCM. So you are saying it is ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE for this to happen? I think not. And what other safe guards are in place that will prevent it from happening? The odds might be out there like winning the lottery but IMO it is still possible.
Ever remember the cases of the getaway cars (floors it like mind of its own?)...granted they were fords, but the reason was later traced to manfunctioning cruise control computers. They'd open the throttle wide open catching the driver by surprise. So don't tell me something that is computer controlled is IMPOSSIBLE for it to happen.
