-PROBLEM- DIC message Question
I started my car today and I backed out of my garage and I got two messages that I also got about 4 days earlier. It was telling me to service my ABS and my traction control system. They both lit up at the same time and once I reset them they go away. The first time it happened I turned the car off, started it back up, and drove around for a little bit and it never came back on. Today I reset it and drove to and from work without issue. Has anyone else had this problem or if not, does anyone have any suggestions as to what the problem might be. I am pretty handy in the garage so I like to do the work myself, but I don't know where to begin looking for the problem. Thanks in advance!
--Marc
I started my car today and I backed out of my garage and I got two messages that I also got about 4 days earlier. It was telling me to service my ABS and my traction control system. They both lit up at the same time and once I reset them they go away. The first time it happened I turned the car off, started it back up, and drove around for a little bit and it never came back on. Today I reset it and drove to and from work without issue. Has anyone else had this problem or if not, does anyone have any suggestions as to what the problem might be. I am pretty handy in the garage so I like to do the work myself, but I don't know where to begin looking for the problem. Thanks in advance!
--Marc
Sounds like an intermittent wheel speed sensor. But, like always, check and see what codes you have. Make sure you make note what suffix letters are behind the numbers. i.e. C1227 H or C1227 HC.
Here is how to check your codes:
http://www.stengel.net/diccodes.htm
Here is how to check your codes:
http://www.stengel.net/diccodes.htm
If you start the car and back it up in a spirited way that includes turning the wheels sharply (while in reverse), you will spoof the computer into activating AH. This is because the calculations assume a forward start direction, but you actually give it a reverse start direction. The calculation busts the acceptable parameters and AH is invoked and that can set a code because the computed directionality values were askew.
Just a thought. Has happened to me when I toss the car around in reverse on start up.
Now, if you were just slowly backing up granny-style, kept the wheels straight, and still set a code...then like the others....I tend toward a bad sensor.
Ranger
Last edited by Ranger; May 20, 2005 at 07:01 PM.
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--Marc
If you start the car and back it up in a spirited way that includes turning the wheels sharply (while in reverse), you will spoof the computer into activating AH. This is because the calculations assume a forward start direction, but you actually give it a reverse start direction. The calculation busts the acceptable parameters and AH is invoked and that can set a code because the computed directionality values were askew.
Just a thought. Has happened to me when I toss the car around in reverse on start up.
Now, if you were just slowly backing up granny-style, kept the wheels straight, and still set a code...then like the others....I tend toward a bad sensor.
Ranger
--Marc
--Marc
What you need to do is see what the underlying codes are as I mentioned in the above post. It's easy. Why keep asking people to guess at it?
All you need to know to analyze the problem is explaned at:
http://www.stengel.net/diccodes.htm
Thanks!
I started my car today and I backed out of my garage and I got two messages that I also got about 4 days earlier. It was telling me to service my ABS and my traction control system. They both lit up at the same time and once I reset them they go away. The first time it happened I turned the car off, started it back up, and drove around for a little bit and it never came back on. Today I reset it and drove to and from work without issue.
--Marc
All of the following is from the Service Manual.
The ACT/HNDLG-WARMING UP message is set either because the underhood temperature is too cold or the Steering Wheel Position Sensor has not been centered after 30 seconds. There is no indication how cold is too cold!
The Electronic Brake And Traction Control Module (EBTCM) acquires information from wheel speed sensors to see if any wheel is slipping and also monitors the Stoplight switch to see if the brakes are being applied (in which case Traction Control can be disabled if necessary).
It monitors the Steering Wheel Position Sensor and determines when the car is being driven in a straight line and how far the wheel is being turned. The computer waits until the car is going 18 MPH and then monitors the SWPS for steady state for 30 seconds. It then assumes that the vehicle is going straight and accepts that output from the sensor as "steering wheel centered position". This is done to compensate for wear over time. It monitors the Lateral Accelerometer to determine the lateral acceleration of the car. These two measurements are used to calculate the desired yaw rate. The LA also provides input for Bank Angle Compensation so that the system does not over compensate in banked turns.
It acquires Yaw Rate from the Yaw Rate Sensor and calculates Yaw Rate Error and will modulate brake fluid pressure to individual wheels to restore proper yaw rate error. If a system malfunction is detected it can disable the Anti-Lock, Traction Control and Active Handling Systems and will turn on the AntiLock and/or CAR Icon on the dash.
~Bruce
What a nuissance.
Does anyone have a picture of the speed sensor wires? With my luck I'll disconnect my brake lines instead!
I went to several Chevy dealers who were mystified and finally paid one Chevy dealer $400 to tell me that it was a problem with my tune. Yeah......right. Like what does a tune have to do with the PCM not receiving the torque signal from the source?
Then I found out I had a faulty BCM and am chasing GM for my $1500 for parts/labor.
Car runs just fine now.Scott
Last edited by Coopster; May 31, 2005 at 05:11 PM.
















