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Old May 18, 2005 | 09:52 PM
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I'd like to change out my stock thermostat to a 160 degree one. Will my computer automatically make adjustment for it? Also what are your opinions on upgrading to constant fan controller?


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Old May 18, 2005 | 10:22 PM
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Your computer won't adjust when your fans come on. Your car will run cooler when you are driving on long roads but not so much in the city when it is warm out. You will need to adjust when your fans come on using a programmer. I used ls1edit to adjust mine so the first fan comes on at 180 and off @175 my second fan is set on @185 and off at 180.

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Old May 18, 2005 | 10:51 PM
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You can buy a fan controller for $150 or get an used Hypertech that does that and so much more.
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Old May 19, 2005 | 08:44 PM
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You can Buy a Hayden fan controller at Pep Boys for 49 dollars, it is the same controller used buy Corvette vendors but without the pre cut ( to length wires)... so alittle wire cutting and you can save 100 bucks..There is also a Tech tip on using this generic Hayden controller on a C5, in the C5 tech tips section. It is pretty simple... you have a thermocouple which goes into your radiator vanes. a ground wire, a power wire, and a wire that splices into your drivers side fan ( blue wire)... your PCM will over ride the Hayden in the event that it would fail... Ive had mine five years, works great and is fully adjustable... what is nice about the Hayden is you can turn it off in the winter and go back to stock fan settings...

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Old May 19, 2005 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Evil-Twin
You can Buy a Hayden fan controller at Pep Boys for 49 dollars, it is the same controller used buy Corvette vendors but without the pre cut ( to length wires)... so alittle wire cutting and you can save 100 bucks..There is also a Tech tip on using this generic Hayden controller on a C5, in the C5 tech tips section. It is pretty simple... you have a thermocouple which goes into your radiator vanes. a ground wire, a power wire, and a wire that splices into your drivers side fan ( blue wire)... your PCM will over ride the Hayden in the event that it would fail... Ive had mine five years, works great and is fully adjustable... what is nice about the Hayden is you can turn it off in the winter and go back to stock fan settings...
I have one NEW in the box. Never used! Same controler Evil Twin just mentioned. I will sell it to you for 40 shipped! I purchased two, one for my 98 and one for my Z06. I installed headers on the Z06 and had it dyno tuned and at the same time I had the coolant fans temps lowered. I sold the 98 and never installed it.

Send me your e-mail address and I will send you some pictures of it.

Let me know if you are interested.

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Old May 19, 2005 | 10:07 PM
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I really hate to say this again but a lower temp thermostat will not cause you car to run cooler. It only delays the amount of time it will take the car to reach its operating temperature.
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Old May 19, 2005 | 10:28 PM
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with the 160 therm installed, my 99 runs at about 175 on open road, as opposed to 195 on an open road. In traffic it will take just a little longer to go over 220, BUT with the 160 therm, I can just turn on the A/C or the defroster when in traffic and my car will no longer cycle between 195 and 230. It will now stay around 185 in bumper to bumper New York city traffic.

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Old May 19, 2005 | 10:38 PM
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If you had no thermostat just direct open line and a 180 degree thermostat and drove from Cleveland to Columbus (3 hour drive) without stopping or shutting off the car the engine temp would be the same if there are no adjustments to the fan settings. The thermostat does not control what temperature your car operates at. It is there to expedite the ability of your car to warm up. Ok this is my last post ever on this topic, I will now go into the front yard and continue beating my head against a tree.
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Old May 19, 2005 | 10:49 PM
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Not to hijack but if i put my 160 in and i have 3 weeks before a dyno tune,would there be any negative affects?Thanks
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Originally Posted by shurite44
If you had no thermostat just direct open line and a 180 degree thermostat and drove from Cleveland to Columbus (3 hour drive) without stopping or shutting off the car the engine temp would be the same if there are no adjustments to the fan settings. The thermostat does not control what temperature your car operates at. It is there to expedite the ability of your car to warm up. Ok this is my last post ever on this topic, I will now go into the front yard and continue beating my head against a tree.
The therm DOES have a major influence on running temp. With the factory therm you will see a temp of around 195 once fully warmed up, and moving along in open air (no traffic). If the outside temp is 20 or 90 your car will run at or near 195, as the the therm will close when the coolent temp decreases, it will stay closed until the coolent temp is near the therms opening point. If that opening point is lower the vehicle we see lower operating temps when not in traffic. If you can control the cooling fans with the stock therm, there isnt much you can do to lower the operating temp. With a lower temp therm AND control of those fans you can keep the over all coolent temp down below stock levels of between 195 to 230.

Its a combined effort of the therm and the fans.

Enjoy that beating.
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Originally Posted by sshole
Not to hijack but if i put my 160 in and i have 3 weeks before a dyno tune,would there be any negative affects?Thanks
My guess would be NO, as the tune isnt done yet. Good question for the guy doing the tune.
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Old May 19, 2005 | 11:27 PM
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The tuner is mti in houston and im in mo. so i need to put it in before i go but i didnt want to cause any bad things before i go.
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Originally Posted by warren s
Enjoy that beating.
Thank you, I will.
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Originally Posted by shurite44
I really hate to say this again but a lower temp thermostat will not cause you car to run cooler. It only delays the amount of time it will take the car to reach its operating temperature.
I hate to say this "again" but people should not post in areas they know nothing about.... but a 190 stat in a car will set the "How cold it gets" lower parameter, meaning the car will get no colder than 190.... putting a 160 stat in the car will set the lower parameter to 160, meaning the car will get no colder than 160...
So with that in mind, using a 160 stat and fan temperatures below 190 will allow the fans to go on sooner, you can now drop your fan setting 20 degrees and still allow the fans to cycle off, the way they were designed to do... these fans are not designed to run constantly... if you have a 190 stat and set the fans to 180, the fans will run constantly .... but then of course I've told you this several times before shurite44, , so if you don't know what you are talking about, you should not give advice.... funny how all the tuners use 160 stats in their pro charger, or magnacharger engines and recommend them to anyone doing any type of performance tuning.
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Old May 20, 2005 | 01:51 AM
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Hey everybody can have an off day.
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Originally Posted by shurite44
Hey everybody can have an off day.
I've heard that beating your head against a tree can cause this phenomenon.
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Yes it can, I just wish I would have beat my head against the tree prior to my post. At least I would have an excuse.
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Thanks for the Info guys
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Thanks for the Info guys
What about the entertainment???????
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