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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 11:38 PM
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I am getting new Blackwing, powerduct, and a LS6 intake manifold. My Vette is a 99, I see there are different part numbers for some of these items starting with the 01 model year.

Is there any benifit in getting the newer MAF sensor and buy the parts listed as 2001 and up ?? Will my 99 throttle body mate up to a 03 intake ??

Any help would be appreciated so I don't start buying mismatched parts... Thanks.
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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 11:41 PM
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I would liek to know too.
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 12:18 AM
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You can get a wiring kit from most any of the tuners to adapt the 85mm MAF--I went ahead and put one on my stroker with the 90mm TB and FAST intake I am not sure if it would help stock cubes--some of the guys swear by the smaller unit like yours without the screen in it--forced induction guys want the biggest one they can get as the FI overloads the damn things and drives the PCM crazy--I can't remember but the MAF was not terribly expensive (by corvette standards) and since you will probably want to retune anyway do it first because there will be some tuning to do after you put it on--
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Part of what is bringing this question to the table is.... In my quest for a LS6 intake, I have found a 2003 with, injectors, fuel rails, and throttle body. I intend to do a head cam package in the fall... looking for about 400 rwhp. I know that bigger is not nessecarily better, so I'm looking for what is the wiser thing to do for my situation.

Do I just grab the intake, get my 99 sized blackwing and airbridge... keep my Throttle body and MAF, maybe replace the MAF with a compatible after market unit?

I plan to leave all the EGR plumbing in a pile in a corner of my garage
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 12:32 AM
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...the reason people port their MAF, whether it's by physically porting it, adding MAF ends (97-00 only), or by replacing the entire unit, GMS etc..., it is to increase the engines ability to take in air...

...The 01 MAFs, including LS6 MAFs, are slightly larger than 97-00 LS1 units, and are complete housings, without MAF ends...


Read this. It explains the difference in detail:
http://www.vetteguru.com/mods/howto/#maf_tb

http://www.vetteguru.com/mods/howto/
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 01:08 AM
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George - I ran a Blackwing along with an LS6 intake on my Y2k without touching the MAF.

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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by bluecoupe
...the reason people port their MAF, whether it's by physically porting it, adding MAF ends (97-00 only), or by replacing the entire unit, GMS etc..., it is to increase the engines ability to take in air...

...The 01 MAFs, including LS6 MAFs, are slightly larger than 97-00 LS1 units, and are complete housings, without MAF ends...


Read this. It explains the difference in detail:
http://www.vetteguru.com/mods/howto/#maf_tb

http://www.vetteguru.com/mods/howto/


Allot of thinks changed on 01+ C5. Electronics, active handling, piston rings…
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It will create a tuning complication and not contiribute to power on a stock cube motor.
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It will create a tuning complication and not contiribute to power on a stock cube motor.

NOT TRUE! I installed a GM 85mm MAF with screen removed on my 97 mn6,
The Vettedoctors had no problems tuning it at all.
Not sure if it made any extra power because I did multiple mods at the same time, just wanted to replace the stock unit before the dyno tune. I was very happy with 345 rwhp bolt on's only.
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Originally Posted by vetteamerica
NOT TRUE! I installed a GM 85mm MAF with screen removed on my 97 mn6,
The Vettedoctors had no problems tuning it at all.
Not sure if it made any extra power because I did multiple mods at the same time, just wanted to replace the stock unit before the dyno tune. I was very happy with 345 rwhp bolt on's only.
Ok sorry, it must be accomodated in tune and results will vary.
True?
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Originally Posted by George8211
I am getting new Blackwing, powerduct, and a LS6 intake manifold. My Vette is a 99, I see there are different part numbers for some of these items starting with the 01 model year.

Is there any benifit in getting the newer MAF sensor and buy the parts listed as 2001 and up ?? Will my 99 throttle body mate up to a 03 intake ??

Any help would be appreciated so I don't start buying mismatched parts... Thanks.
Save your money and keep the stock 97-00 MAF. Until you really start increasing the power, there is no advantage to a larger MAF. I just had new heads, cam, LS6 intake, LS6 injectors, Dynatech long tube headers w/high flow cats and X-pipe, GHL catback exhaust, Blackwing, WCC airbridge and a full LS1 dyno tune performed with my stock 2000 MAF (with screen removed). The car runs like a watch and the A/F ratio (after tuning) perfect all the way through the rpm range. The car is putting down 376 rwhp and 375 rwtorque (SAE and smoothed), which works out to about 470, or so, fwhp and torque. Take a look at this thread...there are some experts responding here:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...post1551124878

Ed

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Not to mention the fact that the alum meter has a higher readable range than the 85mm composites.
Geroge, I have one here I can swap for your aluminum one if you want

Phil
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Not to mention the fact that the alum meter has a higher readable range than the 85mm composites.
Geroge, I have one here I can swap for your aluminum one if you want

Phil
There you have it if Phil saids so you can take it to the bank---end of thread--
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Originally Posted by NEPTUNEBILL
There you have it if Phil saids so you can take it to the bank---end of thread--

Actually, your statement is more right than you know
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No new maf. Instead, spend the money on a good Speed Density tune, kill 2 birds w/one stone: you get a killer PCM tune + eliminate the MAF function. Only way to go.

Robert / Gen 3 Motorsports LLC
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Originally Posted by George8211
I am getting new Blackwing, powerduct, and a LS6 intake manifold. My Vette is a 99, I see there are different part numbers for some of these items starting with the 01 model year.

Is there any benifit in getting the newer MAF sensor and buy the parts listed as 2001 and up ?? Will my 99 throttle body mate up to a 03 intake ??

Any help would be appreciated so I don't start buying mismatched parts... Thanks.

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I'd put in the LS6 intake, injectors and call it good. So why the Blackwing and not the VaraRam? Jeff

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I'd put in the LS6 intake, injectors and call it good. So why the Blackwing and not the VaraRam? Jef

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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 10:56 PM
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Ya know, I'm looking at the VaraRam pictures thinking... Looks like such a good idea, why is the set up so potentually dangerous. I'm thinking it would great if there was some kinda access further up the system that I could open up manually if I was in high risk driving conditions.

Hummm.... thinking....
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Originally Posted by George8211
Part of what is bringing this question to the table is.... In my quest for a LS6 intake, I have found a 2003 with, injectors, fuel rails, and throttle body. I intend to do a head cam package in the fall... looking for about 400 rwhp. I know that bigger is not nessecarily better, so I'm looking for what is the wiser thing to do for my situation.

Do I just grab the intake, get my 99 sized blackwing and airbridge... keep my Throttle body and MAF, maybe replace the MAF with a compatible after market unit?

I plan to leave all the EGR plumbing in a pile in a corner of my garage

If you're going to do all that, see my sig, then change out the MAF.
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