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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by EB20003
Yes, I recall when you stated


You lost because you broke out by .025 seconds you say.

In your system of mathematics which number is larger 2.5 X ten to the negative 2..... or 7.0 X ten to the negative 4?
Just what I said, most guys know BS when they see it.
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 10:49 PM
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Just what I said, most guys know BS when they see it.






And we spotted this load of BS right away.
: Originally posted by Korreck
And many, if not most of our races are decided by a few thousandths of a second. After running consistantly Sunday I lost because I broke out by .025
Well I guess if you are an optimist a few could be anywhere from 1/1000 all the way up to 99/1000.

Sounds better than saying that you lost by 2.5/100. Lose by nearly 3 one hundreths of a second and discuss thousandths.

Sort of like getting a "1,000 cent" parking ticket. Sounds better than a $10 parking ticket.

You ought to be in politics. I am sure that you could convince us that when you really break it down......... the $427 billion federal deficit...... is really only a "few" pennies.

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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 10:52 PM
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It's funny right now there are about three threads teetering on becoming a dreaded vararam thread. A mother lovin vararam thread. Please say it's not so.
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Sandra Bigwoode
You're not one of those people who remove their Corvette's PCV and fit 'catch cans' to trap the excess oil that is sucked into the intake plenum from the crankcase, are you... ? =;-]
chuckster may not be, but I am. I even went as far as changing out my horrible 99 PCV system and installed the slightly less horrible LS6 PCV system. Then to completely screw myself I put an AMW catch can in line with my PCV feed. Then I bought a set of LS6 valve covers and removed the oil baffles and painted them 'red' and added a second AMW catch can between the throttle body and the valve cover vent. Now none of the oil from my PCV system gets into my intake. The tops of my pistons are clean. What did I do wrong?
Oh yeah, I also run a VaraRam with the K&N filter, but something must be wrong with that too. I lost .3 secs and picked up 4mph in my 1/4 mile times. It must have been the weather. It was probably more oily out that day.
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 11:15 PM
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chuckster may not be, but I am. I even went as far as changing out my horrible 99 PCV system and installed the slightly less horrible LS6 PCV system. Then to completely screw myself I put an AMW catch can in line with my PCV feed. Then I bought a set of LS6 valve covers and removed the oil baffles and painted them 'red' and added a second AMW catch can between the throttle body and the valve cover vent. Now none of the oil from my PCV system gets into my intake. The tops of my pistons are clean. What did I do wrong?
Oh yeah, I also run a VaraRam with the K&N filter, but something must be wrong with that too. I lost .3 secs and picked up 4mph in my 1/4 mile times. It must have been the weather. It was probably more oily out that day.
OK, we're waiting on the weather info. Weather could cause you're lower ET. What was the temp, humidity, da,... ? Can you post the time slips please.

BTW, what was your lower ET?
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Korreck
OK, we're waiting on the weather info. Weather could cause you're lower ET. What was the temp, humidity, da,... ? Can you post the time slips please.

BTW, what was your lower ET?
I think the vararam must have majical powers to change the weather. Everytime someone uses one they lose three tenths due to weather.
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by shurite44
I think the vararam must have majical powers to change the weather. Everytime someone uses one they lose three tenths due to weather.
I thought you knew this already.

Using the Vararam, you are guaranteed to never run at a DA higher than before you installed it. And guaranteed to never run on a poorly prepared strip.

Otherwise, how else are you going to be able to get those improved times?

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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by EB20003





And we spotted this load of BS right away.


Well I guess if you are an optimist a few could be anywhere from 1/1000 all the way up to 99/1000.

Sounds better than saying that you lost by 2.5/100. Lose by nearly 3 one hundreths of a second and discuss thousandths.

Sort of like getting a "1,000 cent" parking ticket. Sounds better than a $10 parking ticket.

You ought to be in politics. I am sure that you could convince us that when you really break it down......... the $427 billion federal deficit...... is really only a "few" pennies.
That's 25 thousands of a second. Sat I won by 7 ten thousands of a second. Another guy won by 11 ten thousands of a sec. You can't admit when you're wrong. Just like the Vararam. I'm sorry you wasted your money and can't admit it. That's OK. You're still a good guy in my book.

When you coming up? Check E-Town sched for Aug 6. It's Corvette day. You and the Mrs are welcome to stay at our place. I'll setup the motor home for ya.
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by shurite44
I think the vararam must have majical powers to change the weather. Everytime someone uses one they lose three tenths due to weather.
I have yet to see anybody post data. Just performance claims.

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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by boosted_z06
You have never proved once that vararam does anything better then any airfilter that outside air is being routed to and to own one you have to clean it several times a year when other filters like the Blackwing is cleaned every couple of years.

What has been proven is countless of their foam filters coming apart when other well known brands are NOT.

If the vararam was so great then how come GM selected the Donaldson Blackwing as the stock filter for the 2006 Z06 ?
Which also makes this filter a GM approved filter that would not effect warranty.

Oiling a filter is more to trap water out and not dirt and most people over oil filter causing engine and A4 failures.

If someone has to buy a vararam, can the filter and buy a K&N then they might as well just keep the stock one and direct outside air to it and save a whole lot of money and cleaning time


Interesting. I was unaware that the Blackwing had been chosen as the stock filter for the new Z06. Can you provide a link or a source?
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Korreck
That's 25 thousands of a second. Sat I won by 7 ten thousands of a second. Another guy won by 11 ten thousands of a sec. You can't admit when you're wrong. Just like the Vararam. I'm sorry you wasted your money and can't admit it. That's OK. You're still a good guy in my book.

When you coming up? Check E-Town sched for Aug 6. It's Corvette day. You and the Mrs are welcome to stay at our place. I'll setup the motor home for ya.
Thanks for the invite. As you know, I am laying the groundwork for a heads and cam swap, just have to scrape up a few more pennies (sorry couldn't resist )

But seriously, it is looking like a trip to ECS in Aug or Sept. They are steep but from what I have learned so far in speaking with them over the phone and hearing from some of theiir other customers, they are my best option. I'll holler if I get the chance.
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Korreck
I have yet to see anybody post data. Just performance claims.

Night night
Ok, Ok. I'll dig them out, and determine which ones were done before, then after, then scan them so you can see. But I can't do it tonight. It's late here in NJ and I have to go to work tommorow. I definitely will do it because I want to show you the difference. Have you ever run the stock filter, then changed to a VaraRam? No flames here. It seems to me that you have made a remote empirical observation of a product and assume it doesn't work. Also, I have been running the VarRam for almost 18 months, it has gotten dirty, I have cleaned it and oiled it. I have taken my motor apart and looked at my combustion chambers, notched my pistons, and have looked at the internals extensively when I had it apart. No dirt, no wear, oil is still dark red, not brownish. I do change the oil frequently and use a UPF44 filter and Redline oil. Then engine was as clean after I pulled it apart the second time, after the Vararam, as opposed to using the stock air system.
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 01:07 AM
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What's a foam filter ?? Is it like a sponge filter ?? Or like Sea foam ??
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by EB20003
Interesting. I was unaware that the Blackwing had been chosen as the stock filter for the new Z06. Can you provide a link or a source?
Here is one place to read about it

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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 01:40 AM
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They didn't use a Blackwing....

They used a Donaldson Air Filter.
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by George8211
They didn't use a Blackwing....

They used a Donaldson Air Filter.



If the vararam was so great then how come GM selected the Donaldson Blackwing as the stock filter for the 2006 Z06 ?
Which also makes this filter a GM approved filter that would not effect warranty.
Are they using a Donaldson Blackwing or a Donaldson air filter?

Any oiled filter can effect your warranty if issues arise secondary to over oiling it.
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by EB20003
Why not take it a step further?

If the filter is saturated with dirt, then I would wonder just how much dirt got past it.

I mean after all, if I am looking at an absolutely filthy foam filter, then I am looking at the dirt that actually was "unfortunate enough to get "caught" by that good for nothing foam filter..

Who knows how much "lucky dirt" actually got past that pathetic foam filter.

Why wouldn't you worry just as much if you saw a dirty foam filter as you would if you were to see a clean one?
There is a valid point here, but I think it is as mis guided as the Vararam marketing is

If there was dirt/dust in the filter then at least you have visual conformation that its working, to an extent.

If its really filthy then the question should not be

"how much dirt got past?"

"but why is so much dirt reaching the filter, maybe the air intake ducts need repositioning?"

After a recent off roading day in my Discovery I checked the filter and it was filthy, but then again I had been wading thru water that was 3-4' deep mud and water. There is also an exhaust manifold casket which had blown so there was a lot of soot (diesel) on the filter too. I'm sure it didn't stop everything but by seeing what it did stop was reassuring.

Well reassuring enough to keep the stock filter setup instead of the aftermarket foam one that could be used instead.

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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 08:50 AM
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by George8211
They didn't use a Blackwing....

They used a Donaldson Air Filter.
Who do you think makes the Blackwing ?

Same design, same vendor and as it says they got 20% more airflow so its not some paper filter nor some cheap foam one.
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 11:09 AM
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I check and re-oil my Vararam filter frequently with PJ-1 and have never had any problems. Just curious though. What is the proper method for cleaning and re-oiling the Vararam filter?
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