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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 05:28 PM
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Phil worked his majic on my 2000 cp MN6....Cam, ZO6 intake,vortex, ASP pulley, Dynomaxx Headers,high flow cats, x-pipe, Borla Stingers, Ported TB, Oil pump, timing chain, double roller rockers, etc. 4.10 gears all installed and tuned by DTE....400rwhp....363rwtq in 92 degree heat....What a first class operation....160 degree t-stat and reset fans also and a bunch of other stuff....

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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 07:06 PM
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Just made a trip there myself on the 11th for some 4:10's. The do have a 1st class operation and Phil and Jenny are great to work with. Sounds like you got some pkg there!! I know I'm enjoying my new gears. Congrats
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Yes, Jenny and Phil are the best. You will really like those 4.10's. They should have been the factory gear in the Mn-6..

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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 08:53 PM
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Did they custom grind a cam for you? Any specifics on the grind and before and after numbers? I have corresponded with them about a cam and was curious as to how you made out.
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 12:33 AM
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Very strong numbers.
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 01:14 AM
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dang it, danberry, I see I need to get in touch with phil,,,lol....great numbers,,,,guess I gotta ad more boost.....phil you listening
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 01:21 AM
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Here are my before and after numbers from work done this Spring. Please note that my cam is very mild (my choice - didn't want lope). The work was excellent and the car is a beast (in a good way).

My car had a few bolt-on mods going in (seems to have added 10 - 15 rwhp over stock) - things that were replaced as part of the work at DTE.

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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 02:36 AM
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am i correct in assuming you were at 368hp/358tq before adding LT headers w/ high flow cats, cam, cat back, asp pulley etc etc adn are now at +32HP/+5TQ?? Or am i missing something here??
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by TT_Vert
am i correct in assuming you were at 368hp/358tq before adding LT headers w/ high flow cats, cam, cat back, asp pulley etc etc adn are now at +32HP/+5TQ?? Or am i missing something here??
That IS the way it looks on that graph, but common sense, tells us the reverse is true.
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 12:24 PM
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How come run 012 says "A4"?
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by boatboatboat
That IS the way it looks on that graph, but common sense, tells us the reverse is true.
ive got q uite a bit of common sense and im not sure what parts all hees added since the last pull. It says he had a cam back then, but he says hes added a cam just recently. ??

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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 06:00 PM
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To clear this up...

The dyno results Mr. Berry is speaking of quite simply indicates before and after results of the performance upgrade. The only items that were originally on the car when it initially arrived here and was base-lined with, was the Borla Stinger exhaust mufflers and the Vortex CAIK. (321/327) Otherwise, the vehicle was completely stock in every detail.

The power gain was acheived with the items he has listed above in his original post, in addition to what we just listed in this post. We only wish it wasn't so sweltering hot and humid around here, as the chassis dyno cell temperature often rises above 100*F on days like this, which obviously makes man AND machine alike respond with less energy....

It's tough to keep control of the chassis dyno ambient temperature environment in these extreme conditions, even with one(1) 12,000 CFM cell fan, four(4) 3800 CFM vehicle fans and one(1) small 1740 CFM barrel fan at maximun capacity! The air movement within the dyno cell (1152 sq./ft.) is extremely "windy" as designed, but it's only "hot air" that's being blown around....

*BTW- The attached dyno report from ChipN indicates the before/after results of his car which is an "A4", meaning an "automatic 4-speed". 2 different cars... 2 different combinations... 2 different results.....


That's it.... Very easy. HTH's

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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 06:32 PM
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i see no mention of heads, what kinda heads are you running

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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 06:37 PM
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That's because no modified heads of any sort were used in either combination.... Both vehicle's had stock, untouched, never removed LS1 heads on their engines.
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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 06:40 PM
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wow 400 RWHP from an A4 in 100 deg heat w/o heads????

edit now i see its an MN6 but even so w/ 4.10s and no heads, that must be one hell of a cam??
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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 06:44 PM
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Incorrect..

As we stated earlier~ 2 different people... 2 different cars... 2 different combinations... 2 different results......

that must be one hell of a cam??
Not really~ Under 230*@.050" on both sides. Sometimes, bigger is not always better.


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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 06:54 PM
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ok well if the owner would mind letting me (us) know exactly what mods he has i'd be grateful. Id like to see what kinda combo gets to 400 rwhp w/o heads in 100 deg heat w/ 4.10s..

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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 07:03 PM
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He already did...

Cam, ZO6 intake, vortex, ASP pulley, Dynomaxx Headers, high flow cats, x-pipe, Borla Stingers, Ported TB, Oil pump, timing chain, double springs, roller rockers, 4.10 gears, 160 degree t-stat and reset fans also and a bunch of other stuff....
All of the hardware we used for this combination he has already listed in his original post. The only thing that is not in his description is the in-house PCM calibration and auxilary AFR sensor bung/plug kit we install into the exhaust pipe, which must be his "bunch of other stuff", because there is nothing left....

BTW- His car was not dyno'ed in 100* heat, but rather 92*-94* as he already stated in his first post.

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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 07:04 PM
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is this a custom cam or are the specs public? Thats quite impressive..

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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 07:09 PM
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We typically grind the shaft to compliment the application, rather than force the application to fit the grind. We've found the engine responds much more positively in nearly every area of operation doing it this way than the latter.

In the 3+ years we've been here, only but once or twice have we've we ever ground the "same" lobe design for any particular combination due to the nearly infinite amount of components that are or could be be installed onto the vehicle when it arrives here. Whatever that combination ends up being when the car is completed, is what the cam grind is designed for, as to reduce the amount of "comprimises" as possible one faces with aftermarket camshafts.

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