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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 07:19 PM
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Do not know why they came on . But they did at the same time. Did some reading on the situation and some say it could be just some sensors near the wheels. Does any one have pics of these sensors and detail pics of the fixing process? My ACTRON scanner con not read the codes. Made an appointment with the local dealer to check it out. The bill is going to start out at $75 (scanner) and then go up. So is there is away to avoid this, I am all Would like to spend my money on mods not repairs..

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Do not know why they came on . But they did at the same time. Did some reading on the situation and some say it could be just some sensors near the wheels. Does any one have pics of these sensors and detail pics of the fixing process? My ACTRON scanner con not read the codes. Made an appointment with the local dealer to check it out. The bill is going to start out at $75 (scanner) and then go up. So is there is away to avoid this, I am all Would like to spend my money on mods not repairs..

Thanks for help.......
First check your battery.
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 08:08 PM
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Why check the battery?????????????????
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 08:19 PM
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I just went through this. Turned out to be the control module. Total cost $1000 including labor.

Hope you dodge this bullet.
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 08:40 PM
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Why check the battery?????????????????
Sometimes when the voltage is low you get these lights for no other reason. I cured mine with a new Red Top
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 09:02 PM
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Allan did you get any codes w/ the bad battery?
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Allan did you get any codes w/ the bad battery?
Yes, the lights and various codes would be set when the battery voltage drops. The usual suspects when you get a lot of stuff like that all of a sudden would be the battery and then possible grounding problems. At least, those are the first things to consider before more costly possibilities.
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by allanlaw
Yes, the lights and various codes would be set when the battery voltage drops. The usual suspects when you get a lot of stuff like that all of a sudden would be the battery and then possible grounding problems. At least, those are the first things to consider before more costly possibilities.
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 12:43 AM
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I just went throught this too!!! Cost me $1600 but I am filing a GOODWILL Repair with GM because I am only 30 days out of warrenty and only have 34000 miles on the car. GM Rep says that my case is under review! Wish me luck.

On the other side of the coin, I had to disect this circuit down to a nats a$$ to get to the bottom of it. I have answered a hand full of post on this very issue. Here are some links to a few post that I responded to; Lots of tips and pictures!

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1167801

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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 01:07 AM
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I just figured out that I didnt answer your question! Here are some pictures of wheel hubs and speed sensors!

Front hub with speed sensor pigtail:





Rear hub assembly with pigtail:



Hub disassembled, showing speed sensor ring and pick up coil:





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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 08:29 AM
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I wanted to test my brakes yesterday, so I pulled maxi fuse # 52 for the ABS circuit. I got warning lights for both ABS and Traction Control. Conclusion: the traction control depends on wheel speed signals from the ABS system. No signals and the traction control shuts down and shows an error. I bet it only takes one faulty speed sensor on one wheel bearing to shut down ABS, then TC is down also. Anybody know how to find a bad wheel speed sensor?
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 02:41 PM
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check the codes; I've got the same deal and thanks to Bill and others I've narrowed it down to my left rear sensor. Codes C1234 (LR open/short) and C1227 (LR excessive wheel speed variation) keep popping up daily now after ~ 9-10 miles. Advice also is to get one from Autozone or some other store other than paying a dealer $380, which is what they wanted to bill me plus 2 hours labor @ $125 an hour. If you don't want to/can't do it yourself, you can certainly find a shop that can swap the little bastard out.
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i am going to have to dig into this also...i am getting 1225 and 1226 all the time now and i'm 99% certain it isn't the wheel speed sensors...what are the odds that both fail, plus one of them is nearly brand new. I have been fighting this for over a year and yes i have the rear mounted ebtcm
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 05:20 PM
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I've had to replace the hub assembly before for the same issue. It's not that difficult if you have the right tools. I also have a shop manual this is a big help.
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 06:41 PM
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What steps should I take in solving this problem? Do not wish to give my money away.
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 12:24 PM
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What steps should I take in solving this problem? Do not wish to give my money away.

do you know the codes that have been thrown?
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 12:27 PM
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i am going to have to dig into this also...i am getting 1225 and 1226 all the time now and i'm 99% certain it isn't the wheel speed sensors...what are the odds that both fail, plus one of them is nearly brand new. I have been fighting this for over a year and yes i have the rear mounted ebtcm
That does sound like wiring; did you clean all your grounds per Bill Curlee's great instructions? Check all the contacts/connectors at the hubs? Did you put in a new hub and it didn't solve it?
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 05:30 PM
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Had battery(red top) checked and charged. Put it back in and no more lights and the car seems to be good. Have not driven more than 2 miles. I will see what happens tomorrow. I understand the code was probably erased when I took the battery out.
The reason I desided to try it was, I was watching the digital read out and seen it drop to 11.5 and return to 12.8 very quickly. Would not of seen it if I had not been watching hard. Thanks for the advice. Hope it is fixed.
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That does sound like wiring; did you clean all your grounds per Bill Curlee's great instructions? Check all the contacts/connectors at the hubs? Did you put in a new hub and it didn't solve it?
Grounds looked to be in good shape, checked the continuity in the wires and it was good.....so either the sensor is shot, but it still reads the right resistance, or the ebtcm is on it's way out
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My Car Is Going In The Shop 8/29 They Said It Was The Ac Controller And I Was Also Having Problems With Lights In Cluster. Thank God For Extended Warranty
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