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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 07:26 PM
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This may be a fairly uninformed question, but how much longer wheel studs do most people run than stock for the track?

The reason I ask is that I'm contemplating using dedicated track tires next season and know most use longer studs. I'm also looking into some spacers for street driving purely for asthetics. Maybe I could find a happy medium.

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ARP studs or GM racing studs which are longer and CCW will make you spacers
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Originally Posted by John Shiels
ARP studs or GM racing studs which are longer and CCW will make you spacers
John, my big question was how much longer? That will guide my spacer choice.
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 06:23 PM
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I run .850 spacer and the standard ARP has plenty of thread for that. If I got them from DRM GM race studs are even longer/
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 08:17 PM
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I have ARPs also - about 3 1/3" long Got them from Summit Racing dot com

Also have some harded open ended lug nuts from NAPA

I also use a spacer 3/8" on the rear.

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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by AU N EGL
I have ARPs also - about 3 1/3" long Got them from Summit Racing dot com

Also have some harded open ended lug nuts from NAPA

I also use a spacer 3/8" on the rear.
Is the photo above with no spacer?

Could I see a shot of:

1) The studs with lugs on your spacered rear wheel.

2) A close up of the lugs you use. Are they silver or yellowish?
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Kodiaks, which are a popular wheel in SCCA T1, require longer wheel studs. I run CCWs, 17x10 front and 17x11 rear with stock wheel bearings and studs. I replace my wheel bearings and studs about annually.
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The delphi cartridge bearing for the C5/6 will easily accept the ARP p/n 100-7704, 1/2 x 20 x 3.470 uhl wheel stud.

A simple drill through to clean the press knurl (of approx 0.060"), then drill guide diameter for 1/2" (drill 29/64") and then tap 1/2 x 20.

This not only makes continually replaceable, but the other available knrul diameters do not really fit past the wheel bearing/wheel speed sensor cartridge. The 0.568, 0.618, 0.625 and the 0.680 knurl fastners have a hard time making it past the bearing assembly on its way to the flange...... not to forget to mention, after a replacement or two, the knurl interfearence fit just goes away.
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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 03:21 AM
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TTT, anyone know the exact length of the stock wheel studs?
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Originally Posted by BQuicksilver
Is the photo above with no spacer?

Could I see a shot of:

1) The studs with lugs on your spacered rear wheel.

2) A close up of the lugs you use. Are they silver or yellowish?
This photo below is the rear wheel with spacer.


The studs themselves are light brass colored. Depending on the light sometimes they look silver / steel colored

dont have a close up. Look at summitracing.com

Part # ARP-100-7708

more photos at http://photobucket.com/albums/v172/AUNEGL/?start=40

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I purchased 1/2" longer studs from Mallett. They also have longer sizes available.

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Thanks for the advice, VR.

AU N EGL: Nice photo album. I love how the yellow car sits. I'd love to get to VIR someday.
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Originally Posted by BQuicksilver
TTT, anyone know the exact length of the stock wheel studs?

i'll meaure some today
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Originally Posted by John Shiels
i'll meaure some today
Thanks John, I'd really appreciate that. I'm trying to decode how much spacer I want for street and how much extra stud I need for Kodiak FX's without spacer to get the right length of wheel stud without being dangerous on track or having it look crummy on street.
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Originally Posted by AU N EGL
Look at summitracing.com

Part # ARP-100-7708
So the stock lugs are 12mm x 1.50rh?
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arp is 2.5" shaft + .15" head or 2.65" overall

stock 1.95" shaft +.18" head or 2.13" overall

Hope you know what I mean
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Originally Posted by John Shiels
arp is 2.5" shaft + .15" head or 2.65" overall

stock 1.95" shaft +.18" head or 2.13" overall

Hope you know what I mean
Hehe, thanks for holding my hand through this.

You said you run a 0.850 spacer, how does that work when the ARP stud only gives you an extra 0.5 inch over stock? I assume the foot of the wheel you run is thinner? Just trying to make sure I have a grasp on all this.
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front CCW is thinner than rear by maybe 50% just a guess. No spacer in rear. CCW makes nice spacers and he may know what you need exactly. Your spring rate will change as you space the wheels out. How big of a rush are you in? I will have it apart next weekend.
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No super big rush here. The spring rate/handling change shouldn't bother me since spacers are just an asthetic choice for me. I'm stil trying to guess what spacer I need to set the wheels flush with the fenders.
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just plumb down the edges with a level when the car is level. Doubt you want to go more than 850 which is slightly more than 3/4"
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