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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 11:40 AM
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 12:08 PM
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I have a 2000 vert with active handling and I can't get it to go into competition mode. I was told that not all 2000's produced with active handling could go into competition mode.
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I have a 2000 vert with active handling and I can't get it to go into competition mode. I was told that not all 2000's produced with active handling could go into competition mode.
Unless there's a problem, any car with Active Handling should go into Competitive Driving using the proper procedures to get it there.
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 01:25 PM
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So what exactly is the benefit of choosing the competitive driving mode over just the regular active handling?

I've had my 2k coupe for about a month now and am still getting used to the car. I haven't had a chance to get out to any kind of open area without other cars yet to test out out and get comfortable with the car's limitations. I have yet to turn off the active handling feature.
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by C5XTASY
Unless there's a problem, any car with Active Handling should go into Competitive Driving using the proper procedures to get it there.
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Comp mode is a part of AH. Now, I've heard several car owners of cars *without* AH complain that they can't get into Comp mode. Of course, that's BECAUSE THEY CAN'T!!!

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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Phidelt076
So what exactly is the benefit of choosing the competitive driving mode over just the regular active handling?

I've had my 2k coupe for about a month now and am still getting used to the car. I haven't had a chance to get out to any kind of open area without other cars yet to test out out and get comfortable with the car's limitations. I have yet to turn off the active handling feature.
Well first you have to make sure you realize what three options you have.

Default= AH/TC is on
Push button one time = AH/TC off, yellow warning on
Push button 5 secs = Comp mode which = AH on TC off, comp on DIC

Does that help?
Things that Comp mode comes in handy for are, Drag Racing, it ensures your TC will not enable and slow your launch by reducing power to the rear wheels. Many use it on a road race track, but I have no experience with that.

On the street I always leave it in the default. No reason for me not too, I do not street race . Nice safety back up.
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 03:19 PM
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i just read this post and hadn't heard anything about it. i went out to my 99 and turned it on held down the active handling button for about 10 seconds and competition driving popped up on the display. learn new things about this car everyday. awesome!!! thanks fellas.
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 06:24 PM
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I have a 2000 (which would make it a "pre-2001") and it came from the factory with AH.

Active Handling (JL4 option) was introduced in 1998: http://www.idavette.net/facts/98.htm

but it was "optional" through model year 2000. So there are plenty of C5's from 1998 through 2000 that don't have AH (though all C5's have "traction control"... which is a different system than AH).

Starting 2001, they all have AH, as it became standard equipment.

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FYI, of the 107,788 C5's made from 1997 thru 2000... all of them had traction control, but only 48,198 had Active Handling.
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 08:13 PM
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Mike -- I know, but your original post said:

Originally Posted by Mike Mercury
I can't remember exactly, but the pre 2001's that didn't have AH.... the button is labled "Traction Control".
..which, to me at least, implied, "it just wasn't available."

Hence, my post.

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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 09:05 PM
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Well I don't have the jl4 option I have the jl9 but that turns out to be just 4 wheel disk brakes, nice option. I still wonder what my display says when I'm slideing. Its not TRACTION SYS ACTIVE or ABS ACTIVE. I think it says stabilty sys active or the like, but I could be wrong. My tcs is alwise off so I haven't seen it in a while. Hears a site that brakes down frc and zo6 option codes http://www.fatherlarryscorvetteshop.com/new_page_4.htm By the way is it possable to put active handling in a 2000 car?
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Old Nov 24, 2005 | 12:55 PM
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Took my 04 Z out yesterday and tried it out. Holding the button for about 6 seconds results in the car going into Competition Mode. I've never "really" done this before so I figured, what the hell.

Out of the chute in 1st and then hit 2nd at 5500rpm, holy bejesus!!!, Stock Goodyear's broke loose, hopped a bit, rear slid to the right, no problem, hit 3rd again at 5500rpm, broke-um loose again, just like 2nd gear, Yahoo!! I can't believe how much power this stock Z06 actually has. Easy shift to 4th, nice.

I leave Active Handling on for the most part but it's real nice to play around once in a while!!

Bob
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Old Nov 24, 2005 | 03:33 PM
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Active Handling giving you on/off and comp mode capabilities is probably THE best feature of the car (outside of the looks, 350hp, 375tq, etc, etc, etc). =) And maybe this is just my observation but AH works with you when you don't fight it. As you learn to work with it, it makes its presence known less and less... Ok I'm gushing... its just too cool...
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Old Nov 24, 2005 | 05:44 PM
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The way I understand from the owner's manual on our '02 A4, if you go into competitive driving mode, traction control is turned off and active handling control of the REAR brakes is turned off. Active handling control of the front brakes is still activated. In other words, in the competitive driving mode, the car's computer will not apply the rear brakes or reduce throttle or reduce timing to control rear wheel spin. But active handling control of the front brakes is still functional. Is this correct?

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Old Nov 24, 2005 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Lynch
The way I understand from the owner's manual on our '02 A4, if you go into competitive driving mode, traction control is turned off and active handling control of the REAR brakes is turned off. Active handling control of the front brakes is still activated. In other words, in the competitive driving mode, the car's computer will not apply the rear brakes or reduce throttle or reduce timing to control rear wheel spin. But active handling control of the front brakes is still functional. Is this correct?

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Yes, but the computer will also use brakes on the rear to "adjust" a slide, but not for throttle induced wheel spin caused because you have disabled TC.

Active Handling (in and out of Competition Mode) will differentially brake all four wheels (individually or more than one) as needed, to recover from slides/skids.

In other words, with Competition Mode on, you can spin the rears as much as you want with the throttle, and the computer won't intercede, unless you get into a slide, in which case the computer will differentially brake the wheels (including rears) to point you straight ahead but will still let the rears continue to spin from throttle input.

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Old Nov 24, 2005 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Phidelt076
So what exactly is the benefit of choosing the competitive driving mode over just the regular active handling?

I've had my 2k coupe for about a month now and am still getting used to the car. I haven't had a chance to get out to any kind of open area without other cars yet to test out out and get comfortable with the car's limitations. I have yet to turn off the active handling feature.
In competitive mode your Traction Control is OFF. With the traction control on if it senses that the rear wheels are losing traction or about to spin it will work the rear brakes and reduce the engine power, closing the throttle and resetting the timing. If you ever plan to drag race your vette make sure your active handling is in competitive mode. You will still have active handling but you will have full control of your rear wheels and full power from your engine.

Before I ever took the vette for a 1/4 mile run I tried it alone and the vette bogged down and I thought WTF! I have a 2004 and 6 speed manual. Then I figured out the active handling secret and I held down the active handling button for about 5 sec. and the competitive mode came up on my display.

I'll tell you this, be prepared for one hell of a ride when you come off the line. The first time I did this in competitive mode it about scared the pants off of me. This vette is like a rocket off the line if you dont let the rear wheels spin too much. Be careful until you can control the vette with this power!

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Old Nov 24, 2005 | 07:47 PM
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nmbsun --

I think you meant be sure that Traction Control is off when drag racing.

It's actually a good idea to keep active handling on. It doesn't interfere normally, but if you get so out of shape that it kicks in, you're probably glad it's there. The run is probably wasted at that point anyway.
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Old Nov 24, 2005 | 07:57 PM
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nmbsun --

I think you meant be sure that Traction Control is off when drag racing.

It's actually a good idea to keep active handling on. It doesn't interfere normally, but if you get so out of shape that it kicks in, you're probably glad it's there. The run is probably wasted at that point anyway.
The active handling will be on when you go into comp. mode. Actually you cant get into comp. mode with the active handling off.
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Old Nov 24, 2005 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by BobbyG
Took my 04 Z out yesterday and tried it out. Holding the button for about 6 seconds results in the car going into Competition Mode. I've never "really" done this before so I figured, what the hell.

Out of the chute in 1st and then hit 2nd at 5500rpm, holy bejesus!!!, Stock Goodyear's broke loose, hopped a bit, rear slid to the right, no problem, hit 3rd again at 5500rpm, broke-um loose again, just like 2nd gear, Yahoo!! I can't believe how much power this stock Z06 actually has. Easy shift to 4th, nice.

I leave Active Handling on for the most part but it's real nice to play around once in a while!!

Bob


I'll have my car one year next month and I have yet to put it into competition mode. I always think about doing it after reading one of these threads, but always forget about it later. Cool weather probably isn't the best time to try it out. One of these days.
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Old Nov 24, 2005 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by nmbsun
The active handling will be on when you go into comp. mode. Actually you cant get into comp. mode with the active handling off.
I know that.

I also noticed that you've edited your post and corrected the error after my comment.

This clears up the confusion. Thank you.
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