Ditching the Blackwing
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Originally Posted by Speed Trap
Does anyone have any experience with this air box lid for the Blackwing? Here is a link to it, Air Box Lid, Its the third item down the page?
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Originally Posted by Dave68
Summed-up, it means I like cold air being directed at the intake filter AND into the engine bay to keep rubber and plastic-degrading temperatures at a reasonable level.
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TByrne is selling the vararam for $269.99 and I thing its free shipping.I have the vararam and It works great
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What is an Icebox, how to make it / install it? Anyone got details on that? I've a Blackwing and I like it. Looking to do the cutout shroud mod soon. Would like to know more about Icebox... 
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Originally Posted by Special K
through the link sent by Special K you are going to find precise info about the IceBox
Christian
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From: Sunshine State
Originally Posted by Vette_Fan
What is an Icebox, how to make it / install it? Anyone got details on that? I've a Blackwing and I like it. Looking to do the cutout shroud mod soon. Would like to know more about Icebox...
I covered the cutout with a piece of plastic and the surging quit, so I made an enclosure. I didn't know about the Ice Box and my sponsor was going to have these units made from my prototype. My sponsor is no longer a sponsor and then I found out about the Ice Box so I purchased one.
The PCM will detect the airflow from the cutout and it requires about 50 miles driving to reset the fuel trims. I have no relationship with the guy that makes these things and in my opinion it's the only way to go.
Hope this helps you. I don't know if it will make your car faster but it made mine more consistent. I think this spring I will install the stock unit and see if I lose any ET. Good luck and Happy New Year to all.
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Here is another "carbon fiber" product that is similar to the icebox
VHP Airforce Box
Sure it's just a lid, but cut the shroud, and use some metal mesh(which I believe is included), and as long as it truly seals the engine compartment air out... I imagine it functions the same.
VHP Airforce Box
Sure it's just a lid, but cut the shroud, and use some metal mesh(which I believe is included), and as long as it truly seals the engine compartment air out... I imagine it functions the same.
Last edited by dagon138; Dec 31, 2005 at 02:53 PM.
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Originally Posted by RonnieLS1
I am looking to ditch the blackwing and stock air bridge. I now have heads and cam. How is the new halltech stinger intake? Is it worth the $400 dollars or is there something else out there.
Ronnie
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Nobody has mentioned the Honker. I have it and it is worth the money in my book. It is a one-piece unit from the cold air intake to the MAF which is relocated to the throttle body as GM has copied on the C6. It replaces the stock air bridge with one smooth flowing piece. The quality, fit and installation are all like you would expect from Callaway. Go to www.callawaycars.com to check it out. Reviews I've read have said it is one of the top hp producers.
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Originally Posted by striper
Nobody has mentioned the Honker. I have it and it is worth the money in my book. It is a one-piece unit from the cold air intake to the MAF which is relocated to the throttle body as GM has copied on the C6. It replaces the stock air bridge with one smooth flowing piece. The quality, fit and installation are all like you would expect from Callaway. Go to www.callawaycars.com to check it out. Reviews I've read have said it is one of the top hp producers.
Expensive, but, a nice product!
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Originally Posted by Special K
So how do you isolate warm engine compt air from the filter? And if you're cooling the engine compartment air by inducing air flow how is the hot air exiting?
I have relieved high pressure, hot air buildup near the firewall by chopping off a section of hood seal - probably not the best thing for those who frequently drive in the rain, but fine for my driving. Ideally, a hood with proper openings would be the best way to do this, IMO.
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Originally Posted by Dave68
Cold air is being directed at the bottom and sides of the filter, which is the front-man for a giant vacuum. Since the bottom and to a lesser extent, the sides are pressurized and the air inside the engine bay is fairly stagnant, the air being drawn in is primarily cold. I've monitored before and after CAI setup intake air temps with the Car Chip (auto data acquisition tool) and found intake to never exceed 104F under slow moving conditions on an 85 degreeF day. Before the CAI setup, intake temps exceeded 140F; that's a significant difference and a retention of 10 HP that would've been lost to timing retardation by the ECU. Of course, you can relieve some of the high underhood temps in your car by opening up the fog light panels and creating an escape for the high-pressure areas.
I have relieved high pressure, hot air buildup near the firewall by chopping off a section of hood seal - probably not the best thing for those who frequently drive in the rain, but fine for my driving. Ideally, a hood with proper openings would be the best way to do this, IMO.
I have relieved high pressure, hot air buildup near the firewall by chopping off a section of hood seal - probably not the best thing for those who frequently drive in the rain, but fine for my driving. Ideally, a hood with proper openings would be the best way to do this, IMO.
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From: Sunshine State
Originally Posted by dagon138
Here is another "carbon fiber" product that is similar to the icebox
VHP Airforce Box
Sure it's just a lid, but cut the shroud, and use some metal mesh(which I believe is included), and as long as it truly seals the engine compartment air out... I imagine it functions the same.
VHP Airforce Box
Sure it's just a lid, but cut the shroud, and use some metal mesh(which I believe is included), and as long as it truly seals the engine compartment air out... I imagine it functions the same.
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Special K - No, no surging that I can detect. I believe the LS1 has a wide bandwidth of A/F adjustment. Having an MAF screen helps matters as well. I'm sure you intake air will be very close to ambient.
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From: Sunshine State
Originally Posted by Dave68
Special K - No, no surging that I can detect. I believe the LS1 has a wide bandwidth of A/F adjustment. Having an MAF screen helps matters as well. I'm sure you intake air will be very close to ambient.
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Originally Posted by EHS
Time for a Chuck of COW tune, I would think.
I've had the same tune for two years and it's done a good job for me.
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Originally Posted by Special K
...I've had the same tune for two years and it's done a good job for me.
I would have your tuner look at that, or maybe get a mail-in tune from Chuck, the Corvette doctor, of COW.
I'm sure he'll be able to fix you right up.
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Originally Posted by EHS
But aren't you getting surging? See your post above.
I would have your tuner look at that, or maybe get a mail-in tune from Chuck, the Corvette doctor, of COW.
I'm sure he'll be able to fix you right up.
I would have your tuner look at that, or maybe get a mail-in tune from Chuck, the Corvette doctor, of COW.
I'm sure he'll be able to fix you right up.
Would you please send me your contact info? I think I had it at one time but I either lost it or can't remember where I put it. 
Happy New Year
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Originally Posted by Special K
Do me a favor? Slow down and read this ENTIRE thread Would you please send me your contact info? I think I had it at one time but I either lost it or can't remember where I put it.
Would you please send me your contact info? I think I had it at one time but I either lost it or can't remember where I put it. Not to worry.