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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 07:41 PM
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Hi guys,

I am looking into some drilled rotors, strictly for appearance sake on my 01. I am somewhat concerned that the rotors may crack, and figured I would ask around here first before buying.

I am either going with the Napa rotors, or just GM Performance Parts.

I drive the car daily, and really don't "use" the brakes in any real performance oriented fashion. Maybe a 1/4 mile event every now and then, but nothing like hotlaps on a road course.

With that said, should I be worried about the rotors being prone to cracks?

Thanks!!
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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 08:00 PM
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Rotor cracking shouldn't be a problem in a street only application.
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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 08:03 PM
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You should be fine. They dont crack just like that. I have some from Sports Brake dot com and have over 6 heavy competition AutoX events along with 1000 street miles so far. No problems at all

Now HPDE is a completely different story though
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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 08:34 PM
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Go to sportbrakes.com this is what i have and alot of other forum members have them as well.
As long as you dont track them all of the time you wont have any problems with them.
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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 91_LX
Hi guys,

I am looking into some drilled rotors, strictly for appearance sake on my 01. I am somewhat concerned that the rotors may crack, and figured I would ask around here first before buying.

I am either going with the Napa rotors, or just GM Performance Parts.

I drive the car daily, and really don't "use" the brakes in any real performance oriented fashion. Maybe a 1/4 mile event every now and then, but nothing like hotlaps on a road course.

With that said, should I be worried about the rotors being prone to cracks?

Thanks!!
This is my position on the drilled/slotted rotors. For normal daily driving there was no problem for me with cracking and there shouldn't be for you either. But if you are putting the d/s rotors on for "Bling Bling" don't make the mistake I did by NOT getting zinc coated rotors (this will prevent them from rusting).
This is a LINK where you can get a set for $260.00 rotorpros.com. Good luck on your choice.
Here is a picture of mine:


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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 11:45 AM
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No issues for street use, but if you hit the track, they will crack!

I have crossdrilled slotted for the street and slotted only for track use.
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 05:09 PM
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Thanks for the replies guys. Certainly been a help.

One more question: Are the GM/AC Delco rotors zinc washed?
I was looking at GMPartsDirect.com or places like that, but have not been able to determine if these rotors are Zinc washed.

Anyone?

Thanks!
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 05:49 PM
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GMs arent Zinc Coated
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What I think is funny is the stock ones crack to hell as well if used a bit "rough".

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Originally Posted by RoadRebel
What I think is funny is the stock ones crack to hell as well if used a bit "rough".

Phil
Probably can't tell very well on this pic, but my stock rotors have little cracks all the way around!
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 10:37 PM
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My stock rear rotor had a crack so wide if you put a light on the back of it you could see light through the crack. Stock rotors with 40k on it+crappy ceramic pads from previous owner+high speeds=big cracks! Oops!
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After seeing photo's posted showing cracks between the holes I would not go with cross drilled rotors. Especially after reading about the old school reason for venting brake gas in old style brake pads that are not even used today.

The guy that parks next to me everyday at work has a V12 Bi-turbo AMG Mercedes with cross drilled and slotted brakes installed by AMG. I think the car is mostly for show. But it makes you think when a company like AMG installs them. You gotta figure they know what they are doing, especially in that price and performance market.

Anyone know if the Corvette factory racing team used them on their C5R or their present C6R car?
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by John Lardner

Anyone know if the Corvette factory racing team used them on their C5R or their present C6R car?
APRacing Carbon disks. about 6 grandfor each rotor.



AMG puts D/S rotors on as the CUSTOMER wants them, not that they are any better. Plus with the big rotors, the 1.28" rotors not the normal 1" rotor they will last a bit longer.

But then again here is a Prosche GT3 RSR Cup car with Porsche 1.28" D/S rotors after 4 hours of race time.


For normal street use D/S rotors are fine.
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 01:15 PM
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I read that the rotors that are cast with the holes are the high end ones......$$$

The ones that are drilled after being cast are the cheaper kind geared towards appearance

Anyone know if this is true?
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 01:25 PM
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Street use drilled is OK.

Brembo.
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by molson
I read that the rotors that are cast with the holes are the high end ones......$$$

The ones that are drilled after being cast are the cheaper kind geared towards appearance

Anyone know if this is true?
Nope not true. Drill, milled or cast, rotors with holes in WILL crack when exposed to repeated stress of hard braking as in racing and or track days.

I have lots of pic of differnt rotors, just about evey one under the sun that has cracked at the track. Street use is totally different and D/S rotor are fine for normal street use.

But more and more ppl are FINALLY become knowlagble that D/S are for bling not performance and when they see D/S on a car they know it is a show car and & DD only. Which is OK.

I also have lots of pic of racing rotors and brakes, not a Drilled one in the lot. a few slotted and one or two with J-hooks milled into the rotor.
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Originally Posted by John Lardner
After seeing photo's posted showing cracks between the holes I would not go with cross drilled rotors. Especially after reading about the old school reason for venting brake gas in old style brake pads that are not even used today.

The guy that parks next to me everyday at work has a V12 Bi-turbo AMG Mercedes with cross drilled and slotted brakes installed by AMG. I think the car is mostly for show. But it makes you think when a company like AMG installs them. You gotta figure they know what they are doing, especially in that price and performance market.

Anyone know if the Corvette factory racing team used them on their C5R or their present C6R car?
V12 Bi-turbo AMG, Thats ether a SL65, CL65 or a S65 Those cars are stupid fast! He must make big money because those are about $200K. By the way those brakes are 15.6" X 1.25" drilled or cast in holes (not sure) rotors with aluminum hats with Brembo made 8 piston calipers. The rears are around 14" with 4 piston brakes. I have never seen these rotors crack but our customers arn't tracking them ether.
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 08:23 PM
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V12 Bi-turbo AMG, Thats ether a SL65, CL65 or a S65 Those cars are stupid fast! He must make big money because those are about $200K. By the way those brakes are 15.6" X 1.25" drilled or cast in holes (not sure) rotors with aluminum hats with Brembo made 8 piston calipers. The rears are around 14" with 4 piston brakes. I have never seen these rotors crack but our customers arn't tracking them ether.
it has Brembos??? that explains it then. I was chassing one of those AMG 65s around VIR, on the straights it was stupid fast, but corning sucked rocks and braking was horrable, car could not stop wirth a darn, or the driver did not like to threshold brake. When ever he got away from me in the straights I would catch him in the braking zones. Finally I think he got tired of seeing yellow in his mirrors and gave me the point by.

I talked to him after that session. He said that car is not fun on the track. too heavy and the body roll was scarry. he said the darn thing was just so heavy that with all that momentum the car just did not stop well. But he will keep it for the highway. and his MB 190 with a ford 354ci under the hood for his track car.
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 08:37 PM
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Yea I don't think you could even get decent pads for those, remember they still have to be quiet for the benz oweners. They tried their best with the ABC suspension(active body control) but their's no hiding 4500lbs. Ha a 190 with a ford v8, thats awsome
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by AU N EGL
But more and more ppl are FINALLY become knowlagble that D/S are for bling not performance and when they see D/S on a car they know it is a show car and & DD only. Which is OK.
So it's proven that D/S rotors are prone to cracks, but then again, so are non-D/S in some instances. I wouldn't neccesarily agree however that a car with D/S rotors are show, DD only. Another possiblity includes a mix use with auto-x & road course, but the owner likes the 'looks' of the D/S, and doesn't mind replacing them when they show signs of cracking.

I have used my car for a few track days, and have not seen cracks 'yet'. I expect they will get there eventually, but when they do, I'll replace them with another set of D/S...
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