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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 05:12 PM
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Just got a Predator controller with my main interest of changing the shift points on my 02 automatic.

Anyone have data to make some good hard pulling shifts?

Is it possible to take someone elses program via email and upload via predator. I do have the PC kit as well.

Stock shift points are kinda like me, they seem old and tired

Thanks in advance guys!

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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 06:49 PM
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there is a Test and Tune C5 sectioon of the forum - where you might get more response.

But here's my suggestions:

load the Performance Tune, then set

global rev limiter: 6200
shifting pressure (firmness) : +10%
shifting speed (quickness): -10%
timing: advance 3%

1-2; 2-3; 3-4 WOT shift RPM: 6000

1-2 WOT shift MPH: take your C5 A4 and place the gear selector in "1". Run the car up to 6000 and note the MPH at 6000 RPM. then enter the 1-2 WOT MPH shift @ 2mph below your finding.

2-3 shift MPH: take your C5 A4 and place the gear selector in "2". Run the car up to 6000 and note the MPH at 6000 RPM. then enter the 2-3 WOT MPH shift @ 2mph below your finding.

3-4 shift MPH: if you're brave enough, place your tranny in "3" and...

further tweaking may be necessary.

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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 09:50 PM
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Thanks Mike, just what I was looking for. It appears that there is not much activity at all on the tuning side of forum? Not in past few weeks or so.

THanks again

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One final question, I was told by Diablo that many people do turn off torq management, your thoughts.

tt

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Originally Posted by Mike Mercury

timing: retard 3%

1-2; 2-3; 3-4 WOT shift RPM: 6000

1-2 WOT shift MPH: take your C5 A4 and place the gear selector in "1". Run the car up to 6000 and note the MPH at 6000 RPM. then enter the 1-2 WOT MPH shift @ 2mph below your finding.

2-3 shift MPH: take your C5 A4 and place the gear selector in "2". Run the car up to 6000 and note the MPH at 6000 RPM. then enter the 2-3 WOT MPH shift @ 2mph below your finding.

3-4 shift MPH: if you're brave enough, place your tranny in "3" and...

further tweaking may be necessary.
Mike: Good info. I've been looking for advice like this all over the internet and haven't found CLEAR, PRECISE information like this anywhere. I'd be a little concerned adding 10% shift pressure but then again, based on reading quite a few of your previous posts, it seems like you have played with the Predator settings a lot. I just installed the canned Predator tune last week and haven't started adjusting things yet. I was going to reduce the shift time 8% for a first adjustment (I found that suggestion in several other places) and then start looking at shift rpm's and shift mph's.

Why do you RETARD the timing 3% from the stock Predator tune? If anything, I would think you would want to try to advance the timing more and monitor to see if you are getting KR.

Oh yeah, I bet this thread gets moved!

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Why do you RETARD the timing 3% from the stock Predator tune? If anything, I would think you would want to try to advance the timing more and monitor to see if you are getting KR.

Oh yeah, I bet this thread gets moved!

my mistake; corrected
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One final question, I was told by Diablo that many people do turn off torq management, your thoughts.

tt
I do not think you want to turn off TM but maybe increase the threshold level. Without a shift kit, billit servos, etc, if you over abuse the tranny they can get very expensive. I have a friend with an auto trans business and he sees a lot of F-cars, LS1 trucks, and corvettes with blown trans.
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Thanks, for the help. I did start with just an install of the performance tune, and wow, what a difference just on it's own. The guys at Diablo say that they do apply some retard of the torq management and I can sure feel it now.

I plan to try adjusting some of the limits on shift points as discribed above, but nothing too crazy. I got this one to cruise but still have some overall great performance.

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Torque Managament is not user controlled from the 1999-2002 Predator. On this model - once you load the Performance Tune program - TM is turned off. There's no further TM adjustment available after this.

Which is exactly what I wanted anyways.

I have a friend with an auto trans business and he sees a lot of F-cars, LS1 trucks, and corvettes with blown trans.
if one wants to play... they're gonna hafta pay later.
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The newer model predator does allow for three options. ON, OFF, RETARD.

Not wanting to be a "RETARD" I left it in RETARD as in the Predator setup.

P.S. I changed shift data only by 5% and got me were I need to be!

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