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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 09:54 PM
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What is the purpose of the 1st to 4th shift mode? I am a new (2001, 6 Speed) vette owner and find that feature a bit annoying. It doesnt seem right that you would want to go from 1st to 4th at low RPM's.... Is there a way to bypass that mode? I've already learned quite a bit from this forum and think its great!

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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 10:04 PM
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As a junior member and 01 6 speed owner(Mill Yellow) I'm honored to know something here!
Order Caags Shifter by pass from Midamerica Motor works for about 40bucks.

Reason for by pass? Fuel economy! (Yeah Corvette owners are concerned about fuel economy please)

What have you done with your 01? I'm currently looking at adding headers. Added Corsa Tiger Shark Pace cars, x Pipe, BlackWing Air Intake.............

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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 11:00 PM
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Yes, it's for fuel economy and can be bypassed easily with the CAGS. Available at many forum vendors.
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 11:25 PM
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here's the link.... $18
Back the car onto a set of Rhino ramps. crawl underneath Disconnect the drypack connector from the transmission, push the Cags dry pack connector in its place and you are basically done.

The 1 to 4 light still comes on, but there is no 2nd or 3rd lock out

http://www.corvettesofhouston.com/pr...0f85ef265041d8
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Old Mar 10, 2006 | 01:17 AM
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The other way to handle the CAGS is to learn to drive around it. This is cheaper and doesn't impair performance. The CAGS only activates under these specific conditions: 1) Speed between 15 and 19 mph, 2) Light throttle. If you shift before 15 you will go to second as you will if you shift at 20. If you get on the the throttle a little you will also get second. Biggest problem is in heavy traffic when starting out from a light with another car in front. They putt putt along and you lazily shift right at the wrong time. That is where you need to train yourself to go to second before 15 or when you hit 20. Your choice. You don't have to spend $20, you don't have to crawl under the car and its more fun.

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Old Mar 10, 2006 | 01:29 AM
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The skip shift feature is there so GM can pass EPA regulations for gas mileage testing and NOT have to charge a gas guzzler tax on Corvettes. For that reason, it is a good thing it comes that way, especially since it is so easily defeated. Most vendors sell the CAGS eliminator for under $20, except Mid-America where it is about $40. It is possible to drive around it, but if you get stuck in stop and go traffic, which is common here in NJ, it can be quite annoying to not be able to shift from first to second at slow speeds.
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Old Mar 10, 2006 | 10:40 AM
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Thanks for the info! I'll get that bypass ordered and eliminate one little annoyance in my life. I love this site!
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Old Mar 10, 2006 | 10:48 AM
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I know the skip shift was put in for EPA reasons, however, looking at the whole picture, the C5 gets close to 20mpg and close to 30 on the highway. I think GM could have done away with the skip shift all together
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I got mine from PFYC for 15.99 , congrats on your new vette!!

heres a link

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Old Mar 10, 2006 | 04:43 PM
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I was originally going to get the by-pass, but after driving it for awhile, decided not to. Simply reving past 2000rpm's will get you out of the 1-4 shift pattern. The only time it really annoys me anymore is when i forget to watch the rpm's when cornering from a stop light and try to shift in that 1-4 zone.
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Old Mar 10, 2006 | 05:32 PM
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After a couple of times, I never have it happen anymore. Why spend the money just drive with Gusto! First gear in our cars is probably good til 45 MPH anyway.
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Old Mar 10, 2006 | 08:39 PM
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The shift skip eliminators are simply a nice housing for a 2200 ohm resistor.

They are $1.99 for five over at radio shack. I still have4. Disconnect the plug from the drivers' side of the transmission; insert resistor (just shove the two sides of the resistor feed wires into each plug lead); tape up; secure with zip tie.

voila - you've done it. The 1-4 skip still lights up on the dash, but nothing happens.
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Old Mar 10, 2006 | 08:56 PM
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I think mine was fixed during an LS1 Edit Tune....
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Old Mar 10, 2006 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BikerDuude
I think mine was fixed during an LS1 Edit Tune....
Yup, that'd be my choice.

Just turn it off in the software. And while you are at it, adjust the fan temp, trans line pressure, torque management and a host of other goodies
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Old Mar 10, 2006 | 10:41 PM
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If you drive the car as it was designed, this should not be a problem.
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Old Mar 10, 2006 | 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn
The other way to handle the CAGS is to learn to drive around it. This is cheaper and doesn't impair performance.
I totally agree! CAGS has never bothered me by engaging when I least expect it, when driving my 2003 Z06. I let the engine rev up a tad higher between shifts. It's nothing to aggressive or anything that will screw with my driving in traffic.
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Originally Posted by David426
I know the skip shift was put in for EPA reasons, however, looking at the whole picture, the C5 gets close to 20mpg and close to 30 on the highway. I think GM could have done away with the skip shift all together
I don't know what the EPA testing procedures are, but it must be close enough that the CAGS switch makes a difference to avoid the tax. Consider this, the GTO with the 6 speed pays no tax, but there is a guzzler tax on the automatic.
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Originally Posted by striper
I don't know what the EPA testing procedures are, but it must be close enough that the CAGS switch makes a difference to avoid the tax. Consider this, the GTO with the 6 speed pays no tax, but there is a guzzler tax on the automatic.
That's interesting. Must have been real close. Well here's to the GM engineer that put in the CAGS to get us out of paying the GG tax. Especially something that can be defeated so easily.
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Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn
The other way to handle the CAGS is to learn to drive around it. This is cheaper and doesn't impair performance. The CAGS only activates under these specific conditions: 1) Speed between 15 and 19 mph, 2) Light throttle. If you shift before 15 you will go to second as you will if you shift at 20. If you get on the the throttle a little you will also get second. Biggest problem is in heavy traffic when starting out from a light with another car in front. They putt putt along and you lazily shift right at the wrong time. That is where you need to train yourself to go to second before 15 or when you hit 20. Your choice. You don't have to spend $20, you don't have to crawl under the car and its more fun.

Bill

Man....SO MUCH easier to spend 20 and not worry about when you shift.........
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