N20 Opinions
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From: McHenry
N20 Opinions
At WOT wouldn't Nitrous be just as hard on your engine as a head and cam package? If the car is producing around 400hp does it matter which method that hp is being made? I guess I just want to be reassured that the gas is as safe as h&C. Thanks for the help!!!
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Re: N20 Opinions (shftn6)
The flywheel doesn't care, but the cylinders sure do. If you were running as fast as you could with your nose held closed it may be more uncomfortable for you and sooner or later you may have problems. I've never heard of a Head/Cam blowing the phlenum through the hood. :eek:
I understand what you are saying. I just feel that technically there is a difference, and unfortunatly I can't explain it in the correct terms. I'm a little challenged there. :(
I understand what you are saying. I just feel that technically there is a difference, and unfortunatly I can't explain it in the correct terms. I'm a little challenged there. :(
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Re: N20 Opinions (shftn6)
Thanks for the reply. The running with the nose held shut scenario I don't get. I read that on the compression stroke that the cooling effect and the chemical change of the n20 to more o2 molecules is what gives you the hp. So actually you would be getting more gasoline and o2 per charge. Heads and cam do the samething. Just lets the car get a bigger charge. Which means to me same stress.
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Re: N20 Opinions (shftn6)
I asked the same question a while back, but I never got a clear answer. I assume a h&C package producing similar hp to nitrous would have the same "wear and tear" on the engine. Even more so in the case of h&c since the hp is always there.
But, nitrous will produce a heck of alot more torque than h&c producing the same hp. So maybe the difference in torque output has something to do with it. :confused:
Hopefully, some other forum members can shed some light on the subject.
But, nitrous will produce a heck of alot more torque than h&c producing the same hp. So maybe the difference in torque output has something to do with it. :confused:
Hopefully, some other forum members can shed some light on the subject.
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Re: N20 Opinions (RajunCajun2001)
http://home.twcny.rr.com/mcss/engine.html
There is some good info at this link on n20. Still doesn't really answer my question. I hope there is somebody that really is an expert on nitrous.
There is some good info at this link on n20. Still doesn't really answer my question. I hope there is somebody that really is an expert on nitrous.
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Re: N20 Opinions (shftn6)
N2O is going to add warranty voiding stress from your engine to your rear axles, and all of your suspension parts. Can you afford to pay for the repairs out of pocket caused by overstressing your car?
If you take off the equipment and say you didn't have the equipment on the machine to have GM treat it as a warranty claim, then you are guilty of fraud which is a crime.
If you take off the equipment and say you didn't have the equipment on the machine to have GM treat it as a warranty claim, then you are guilty of fraud which is a crime.
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Re: N20 Opinions (SMFCPACFP)
I really dont think that you look to modify your car to keep the warranty on those specific parts of the car. I think this is starting to go in the wrong direction from the original question. Not that i can shed some light on the subject but i hope this bumps the question/ answer back on track.
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Re: N20 Opinions (shftn6)
Call Nate @ Xtreme Motorsports you can find him on the forum.He is the Guru of No2 and can explain your questions ebven though he has alot of motor work to do and is moving to AZ. in a few weeks.Good Luck Dave
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Re: N20 Opinions (davidmax)
The extreme nature of Nitrous may be more stressful on the parts than H/C. H/C has an "always on" factor, more of a continuous smooth curve. Nitrous is an aggressive explosion in the torque and hp curves.
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Re: N20 Opinions (Buckmaster)
True! However, with a head/cam I would bet 99 of 100 Chevy mechanics would not know that the heads/cam were modified just by looking at them IMO
[Modified by levrac68, 8:16 AM 8/16/2001]
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Re: N20 Opinions (levrac68)
Its obvious to know the heads were taken off an engine? I disagree. If you can't tell by the exhaust tone that there is a bigger cam in there, its not very obvious that heads/cam would be done. The headers would be very visible however but they dont see to be a big warranty voider.
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[Modified by MattG, 10:37 AM 8/16/2001]
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Re: N20 Opinions (MattG)
What I'm saying is it's in the exhaust note and how the car runs. I have yet to see a car idle that doesn't SCREAM heads/cam when it has been done. Now it may be true that the dealer can not see the work, but they do need to start and drive the car, don't they?