Anyone running this? Does the water-wetter fro reducing the cooling temp really work? And any noticable difference when used in the 6spd trans?

 

I changed over to Redline and noticed a lot of good from it!

I'd recommend Redline - all the way.

 

FYI, almost all products by that vendor, are not certified, no API label and not approved by G.M.
So if you have a warranty, you could kiss it good-bye..

As to water wetter, ever since I put it in, the low water level sensor went bad.
It is a floating magnet sensor and not sure, but that wetter stuff may be the cause of sensor being screwed up for it went bad the day I put that stuff in :(

John

 

I've been using Redline fluids exclusively for over a year now. I love the stuff....and yes, you can feel the difference if you have a six speed. You need to wait until you have at 5k on your car before switching. I would recommend that you use 10w30 during the warm months and 5w30 during the cold. The 10w30 is less volitale so you shouldn't suffer too much oil loss when racing/driving the car hard.

David In Indy :seeya
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Been using http://www.redlineoil.com in my C5 for the last 19,000 miles. Transmission shifts smoother, my C5 with 5W30 uses no oil, plus my rear end has never made any noise

 

I use Redline in my tranny and rear end :yesnod:

I didn't notice a difference when I tried the water wett :confused:

 

I use Redline in my transmission and differential. No problems of any kind and the transmission does seem to shift a little smoother.

 

If you really think about what water wetter says it will do, It SHOULD raise your coolant temp reading a few degree's as it says it makes better contact with the heat exchange process, well that should result in higher temp as MORE TEMP should be passed on to the coolant...At least that is what a friend of mine and myself think... BS... is all, un-needed.

I have a question about switching to a Syn. Automatic transmission fluid. If I service the A4 and want to put in Syn. ATF (red-line) will it matter that I am mixing syn. with the standard ATF as there will still be quite a bit normal ATF in the Trq. Converter? Or short of removing the Trq. Converter how can I drain it? does it have a drain plug?

 

I do not use Redline water wetter. But Nascar cars use it mixed without coolent, just water. Water Wetter seems to work best with low concentration of coolent. I have seen posts on other boards, where people get best results using 20% coolent with water wetter.

 

Not BS at all.

There are 2 heat exchange processes. One between the engine block and the coolant, and another between the coolant and the radiator. The theory behind water wetter is that it makes the coolant a better heat exchanger by eliminating any air bubbles that keep the coolant from totally contacting the radiator walls and engine block passage walls, thereby acting as an insulator.


In the heat exchange process, the heat flows from the hotter thing to the cooler thing. The hotter thing in the first case is the engine block, the cooler thing is the coolant. So for exchange #1 the coolant collects heat.

In heat exchange #2 the coolant is the hotter thing, and the radiator is the cooler thing. The water wetter allows the coolant to give up it's heat the radiator better. As jetskifast has said, the more water in the coolant mixture the better. The dexcool defeats the ability of the wetter to do it's job.

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[Modified by wwashing, 4:15 PM 8/16/2001]

 

Thanks guys I needed to know about this product cause my 6 spd is a little difficult getting into 1st gear, especially if I don't down shift. Hope this stuff helps. Thanks again!

 

water wetter is used in racing as a waterpump lube. it has no effect on temp , contrary to popular opinion. :smash:

 

I have it in the trans and the rear end also using water wetter . Car shifts smoother, Ican't say I notice any difference with the rear and as far as the wetter I also used it as a water pump lube but also noticed the temp is a little cooler. I have been using this stuff since '91 and have absolutly no complaints and would recomend it . I have never tried thier oil as I change mine every 2000 or so and the cost is a little high and I think Mobil One does the job just fine.

 

Redline products, especially lubricants are generally superior to anything on the market. I have used Redline oils and trans products in high performance marine application for years, and nothing performs as well. Redlines Water Wetter does exactly what it is supposed to do, and does it best with a higher water to Dexcool ratio. In a stock LS1 with the factory mix of water/Dexcool, it lowers the coolant temp 3-5 degrees depending on air temp and engine load. Lowering the coolant temp is not the whole issue - the heat transfer process is much more efficient. Watch the coolant temp before and after adding Water Wetter and you can see much more temp fluctuation as the constantly changing cylinder/block temps are reflected in the coolant temperature. I also see a decrease in oil temp at a given speed and air temp - not a lot, but a noticable difference.

 

the lubricants are EXCELLENT. wetter DOES NOT LOWER TEMPS. this has been verified numerous times. :bs

 

Vette-crazy, For the cooling use the EVANS cooling system fluid. They say that it works better with zero radiator pressure and had a temp range from something like -60 to +140deg range (or something like that) with pout any antifreeze added. Look the stuff up and check it out. They also say it's real good in aluminum engines and systems. They also make Al radiatior. :chevy

 

Yes, it works.

I use it in my race car (SCCA A-Sedan) since NO ethlyne based coolants are allowed on the track in case a hose breaks (too slippery on the track).

It does NOT make the engine run hotter, but since it makes the water wetter (this is a chemistry term - basically makes the water molecules smaller so you get more surface to surface contact of the water surface to the metal surface. Soap is a water watter, detergent is not. Anyway, check a chemistry book if you want to know more about that!)

I have found it extremely beneficial in the race car since it cuts down on the corrosion and lubricates the water pump seals. On the track I'll run water temps of 230F and oil temps of 245F (Redline oil, too.) in the A-Sedan and the Z06 runs pretty close to the same on water but the oil goes to 290F range.

For a street car I'd question the benefit. The street car is already set up with what should be an effective cooling system. If you are overheating now adding water wetter may help, but you probably have a more basic problem.

Good luck -

 

I've been putting Redline fluids in my cars exclusively for 5 years now. I have never had any problem with warranty work and I have my dealership put the fluids in the cars for me. At the first oil change I have them change out the transmission and rear end fluid. After that I show up with a case of Redline and a filter. They change the oil and charge me $9.00. The oil change shows up on the service record and all is well.

 

1) I sell Red Line products so of course I'm going to say it is great stuff.

2) I personally used Red Line products BEFORE I started selling them. Due to my excellent personal experience with the Red Line products is why I decided to sell them.

3) Water Wetter and Dexcool. They are 100% compatible. I have not heard anything about "The dexcool defeats the ability of the wetter to do it's job." as wwashing states.

With the C4/C5 and the electric fans, it does not become as much an issue as the fans kick on at a given temp. Other, or older, vehicles with a mechanical fan clutch it can become a VERY big issue. The condition of the cooling also plays a big factor. Yes, I run Water Wetter in my C5 just because of the improved heat transfer, water pump lube and anti corrosive additives. I paid $40K - $50K for my C5, I'm willing to pay the ~$8 for the added protection Water Wetter provides.

I have personal experience with Water Wetter working in a '92 F150, 5.0L, that would over heat in the WINTER when driving on the expressway with the snowplow attached. I would either have to drop the plow to an inch off the ground, or slow down to ~40 MPH to allow the engine to cool. After adding Water Wetter, my over heating problems went away.

4) Four qts D4-ATF in the manual MN6/M12 trans. Yes, you should notice a slight improvement but it will not fix a mechanical problem/defect.

5) Two qts 75W90 in the diff. You do not need to add the Limited Slip additive separately as the 75W90 already has it in it. The only purpose of using the Limited Slip additive with the 75W90 is to 'fine tune' it. If you are going to use the Limited Slip additive, you would be better off using the 75W90NS, (NS - indicates the 'No Slip' formula), and adding small amounts of the Limited Slip additive until you reach an acceptable level of 'clutch pop', (that being the clutch packs slipping in the diff.) Personally, I'd recommend just using the 75W90.

6) 10W30 for me. I only drive the car in the spring/summer/fall. If I ran the car in a lot of colder temp months, I would run the 5W30 during those months.

7) Warranty issues. IF I had a problem, AND, IF I was concerned with the dealer giving me a hard time due to using Red Line Fluids, (which I'm not concerned about), I would just change the fluids back to stock. If they are not going to cover the repair, they are going to find a reason in my opinion.

If you have additional questions about the Red Line products, please feel free to contact me directly, 262/642-4026, or Red Line tech support at, (800)624-7958, Tech@RedLineOil.com.

 

Want you all to know I appreciate your help. I am going with these fluids. They look great. I also discovered that my car is not going into first because my stock shifter seems to have too much play in it. Looks like I will do yet another "mod". Don't you just love the mods? I guess I do, can't seem to stop.