What level hp should I be?
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St. Jude Donor '05-'06
What level hp should I be?
98 a-4
Going to add ls2 heads,220 cam on a 114,shorty headers( I know,lt's are better),and either an ls6 intake manifold or an ls2,.....I have both
The ls2 has a 90 mm throttle body opening, so I will have to acquire a new throttle body if I use that one.
I just don't know if it's worth the money,in my case.....
Any advise?
What would you guestimate my rwhp #'s to be?
Thanks guys!..I am getting pretty anxious
The Batvette is gettin' some wings!
Going to add ls2 heads,220 cam on a 114,shorty headers( I know,lt's are better),and either an ls6 intake manifold or an ls2,.....I have both
The ls2 has a 90 mm throttle body opening, so I will have to acquire a new throttle body if I use that one.
I just don't know if it's worth the money,in my case.....
Any advise?
What would you guestimate my rwhp #'s to be?
Thanks guys!..I am getting pretty anxious
The Batvette is gettin' some wings!
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Originally Posted by flynbya2
Is this a dumb question or two?
Sorry if it is........I guess I am just anxious
Sorry if it is........I guess I am just anxious
I know your frustration. I would guestimate approx 360 -385 rwhp with that kind of set up...assuming yours is an A4. Of course there will be others who will be more lenient in their "guestimates", there always is.
I personally wouldn't waste time or money on "shorties". They're more for show than for go.
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St. Jude Donor '05-'06
Originally Posted by MagikDraggin
I know your frustration. I would guestimate approx 360 -385 rwhp with that kind of set up...assuming yours is an A4. Of course there will be others who will be more lenient in their "guestimates", there always is.
I personally wouldn't waste time or money on "shorties". They're more for show than for go.
I personally wouldn't waste time or money on "shorties". They're more for show than for go.
I understand your position on shorty's.
I know they don't yield that much,and I wouldn't pay $1,000 for their marginal return
But, I bought mine used,had them jet hot coated so they look new( and run cooler),and I only have less than $400 in them...
So they are a GO for me
OH, and BTW
Which intake manifold would suit me best? ls6 with stock tb,or ls2 with a 90 mm tb?( considering I would be out the cost of a 90 mm tb, ...Is it worth in my case???)
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St. Jude Donor '05-'06
Just another note
If this helps with the estimate..........
The guy I got this stuff from dynoed 405 rwhp with this setup in his c-6 m-6
Does that help any?.I know I have a smaller tb,and engine displacement as well as an A-4....
Therefore the question
The guy I got this stuff from dynoed 405 rwhp with this setup in his c-6 m-6
Does that help any?.I know I have a smaller tb,and engine displacement as well as an A-4....
Therefore the question
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Originally Posted by flynbya2
OH, and BTW
Which intake manifold would suit me best? ls6 with stock tb,or ls2 with a 90 mm tb?( considering I would be out the cost of a 90 mm tb, ...Is it worth in my case???)
Which intake manifold would suit me best? ls6 with stock tb,or ls2 with a 90 mm tb?( considering I would be out the cost of a 90 mm tb, ...Is it worth in my case???)
I was told by my tuner that unless you're intending on getting up in the 450+ rwhp range, the stock TB flows just fine.
IIRC, the LS6 intake manifold is only good for something like 5 hp or so. Of course, if money is no object, go for it. Every few extra ponies you can get here and there will add to the overall total which you put to the pavement.
See sig for my current set up....similar to what you have in mind and I am presently putting about 365 to the pavement on the stock LS1 heads.
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LT's will give more than marginal gains if you go with a good set such as American Racing.
Don't bother with the LS2 intake manifold, when it's all said and done you'll also need a new fuel rail and other misc parts, stick with the LS6.
I would also say around 380 to the wheels. Why not go with a slightly bigger cam though? Like a 224/224 or 224/228?
Don't bother with the LS2 intake manifold, when it's all said and done you'll also need a new fuel rail and other misc parts, stick with the LS6.
I would also say around 380 to the wheels. Why not go with a slightly bigger cam though? Like a 224/224 or 224/228?
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St. Jude Donor '05-'06
Originally Posted by MagikDraggin
Mine is an '04 already with the "LS6" intake and matching TB....don't know if it's a 90mm or not.
I was told by my tuner that unless you're intending on getting up in the 450+ rwhp range, the stock TB flows just fine.
IIRC, the LS6 intake manifold is only good for something like 5 hp or so. Of course, if money is no object, go for it. Every few extra ponies you can get here and there will add to the overall total which you put to the pavement.
See sig for my current set up....similar to what you have in mind and I am presently putting about 365 to the pavement on the stock LS1 heads.
I was told by my tuner that unless you're intending on getting up in the 450+ rwhp range, the stock TB flows just fine.
IIRC, the LS6 intake manifold is only good for something like 5 hp or so. Of course, if money is no object, go for it. Every few extra ponies you can get here and there will add to the overall total which you put to the pavement.
See sig for my current set up....similar to what you have in mind and I am presently putting about 365 to the pavement on the stock LS1 heads.
Hmmmmm, I wonder why then the c-6's come with 90 mm tb's stock?
Either way, it looks like I will be heading to the parts for sale section
Magik draggin: do you happen to have a sound clip of your car at idle?
Thanks
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St. Jude Donor '05-'06
Originally Posted by Face
LT's will give more than marginal gains if you go with a good set such as American Racing.
Don't bother with the LS2 intake manifold, when it's all said and done you'll also need a new fuel rail and other misc parts, stick with the LS6.
I would also say around 380 to the wheels. Why not go with a slightly bigger cam though? Like a 224/224 or 224/228?
Don't bother with the LS2 intake manifold, when it's all said and done you'll also need a new fuel rail and other misc parts, stick with the LS6.
I would also say around 380 to the wheels. Why not go with a slightly bigger cam though? Like a 224/224 or 224/228?
The Cam? It came as a package deal for one, so it is bought and paid for.......from an ls2 engine...
Problem is: I am not sure it will work in an ls1 now
Anyone know for sure?
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Originally Posted by flynbya2
Ls6/1's are 78 mm I believe
Hmmmmm, I wonder why then the c-6's come with 90 mm tb's stock?
Either way, it looks like I will be heading to the parts for sale section
Magik draggin: do you happen to have a sound clip of your car at idle?
Thanks
Hmmmmm, I wonder why then the c-6's come with 90 mm tb's stock?
Either way, it looks like I will be heading to the parts for sale section
Magik draggin: do you happen to have a sound clip of your car at idle?
Thanks
http://www.digitalcorvettes.com/corv...am_install.wmv
Oh and regarding the larger TB on the C6, I would assume it's because of the extra inches of displacement...as well as the other "refinements" in the performance dept.
I've heard of there being some idle and other issues with 90mm TB's on stock displacement LS1's with only mild mods.
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St. Jude Donor '05-'06
Originally Posted by MagikDraggin
It's pretty short, but should give you a pretty good idea of what it sounds like.
http://www.digitalcorvettes.com/corv...am_install.wmv
http://www.digitalcorvettes.com/corv...am_install.wmv
Is that because of the 114.5 lsa?
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Originally Posted by flynbya2
Interesting........No real noticeable lope
Is that because of the 114.5 lsa?
Is that because of the 114.5 lsa?
If the LSA were more in the 112 range, yes there would be a much more pronounced lope to it.
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Originally Posted by MagikDraggin
Yes, and some decent tuning. The idle is set at 800 rpm. Occasionally, depending on initial start up temps, the idle will momentarily drop to 600 rpms where there is a slight lope.....actually doesn't sound too bad at all.....am considering having the idle dropped down some and see if it will still run ok and "load up" too much.
It the LSA were more in the 112 range, yes there would be a much more pronounced lope to it.
It the LSA were more in the 112 range, yes there would be a much more pronounced lope to it.
This is very useful information for me
Actually, I LOVE the lope,as long as it doesn't "search" to much
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Sounds like you bought some parts w/o a lot of research. As for as headers go I don't know of any shorty's that go for a $1000. You can get a set of good long tubes coated inside and out in nickle ceramic for $650 to your front door from Jet Hot. If you are interested in the most HP for the buck, you might try selling the shorty's and getting a set of long tubes.
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Originally Posted by tiojames
Sounds like you bought some parts w/o a lot of research. As for as headers go I don't know of any shorty's that go for a $1000. You can get a set of good long tubes coated inside and out in nickle ceramic for $650 to your front door from Jet Hot. If you are interested in the most HP for the buck, you might try selling the shorty's and getting a set of long tubes.
I was mainly in the deal for the ls2 heads,and they will work fine
I believe B+B stainless shorties are very near 1k new...give or take a couple of bucks............And those are what I have........jet hot coated
From B+B website:
http://site.iwebcenters.com/shopbbex...catId=45698%20
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