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Just finished the engine swap on Vette #2, all was going as planned until we fired it up. It starts for about two seconds then shuts the fuel off. When pulling the trouble codes we get DTC P1626 related to the theft deterrent system which cuts the fuel when the passwords sent through the serial cable do not match up. I understand that the possibilities are one of the following: Poor connection, Open Circuit, Grounded Circuit, and/or Shorted Voltage. We have tried most everything we can think of. We are just getting frustrated trying to come up with a resolution. Anyone experience this problem or know of any remedies or things to try next.
Thanks in Advance,
-Mike Tracy
The only two things that are in that circuit are the BCM and the ignition switch. If the pellet in the key is bad or dirty, it will cause this problem. If the contacts inside the cylinder lock are dirty or bad, it will cause the same problem. Looks like the PCM is good cause it supplies fuel and then shuts it off!
Try cleaning the resistor pellet on the key or using your spare key.
The only two things that are in that circuit are the BCM and the ignition switch. If the pellet in the key is bad or dirty, it will cause this problem. If the contacts inside the cylinder lock are dirty or bad, it will cause the same problem. Looks like the PCM is good cause it supplies fuel and then shuts it off!
Try cleaning the resistor pellet on the key or using your spare key.
Bill
No dice Cleaned the pellet, used a spare key, and inspected the cylinder, still starts for a second then dies. I think that there has to be something in the computer possibly the BCM which is sending the wrong signal. I tried disconnecting the positive terminal on the battery, removing fuses 23 and 25 then connecting them after 10 minutes and still nothing.
The fact that the vehicle starts at all indicates that the Password from the BCM was initially received by the PCM but that they susequently lost communications with each other, which caused the PCM to go into VTD Fail-Enable mode. Once it is in VTD Fail-Enable mode, the vehicle will start and run a bit until the PCM sees that communications have not been restored and shuts the engine down. Most likely cause of this is poor connections.
Check and clean the PCM & BCM connectors with contact cleaner. Also check and clean the associated ground connections as well. Bill Curlee has a sticky at the top of this page that may be a help with the grounds.
Last edited by SFVetteman; Jun 6, 2006 at 01:00 PM.
You must conduct the PCM/BCM relearn process before it will continue to run. Here is the procedure:
1. Turn 'on' the key for 11 minutes or more.
2. Turn 'off' the key for 30 seconds or more.
3. Repeat steps 1 and 2 ,two more times (three cycles).
4. Turn 'on' the key for 30 seconds.
The car should run if the above procedure is done properly.
Shirl Dickey
The fact that the vehicle starts at all indicates that the Password from the BCM was initially received by the PCM but that they susequently lost communications with each other, which caused the PCM to go into VTD Fail-Enable mode. Once it is in VTD Fail-Enable mode, the vehicle will start and run a bit until the PCM sees that communications have not been restored and shuts the engine down. Most likely cause of this is poor connections.
Check and clean the PCM & BCM connectors with contact cleaner. Also check and clean the associated ground connections as well. Bill Curlee has a sticky at the top of this page that may be a help with the grounds.
Checked and cleaned connectors as well as wire brushed the grounds, still pulling the codes and won't keep running after 1-2 seconds after start. What could be next?
You must conduct the PCM/BCM relearn process before it will continue to run. Here is the procedure:
1. Turn 'on' the key for 11 minutes or more.
2. Turn 'off' the key for 30 seconds or more.
3. Repeat steps 1 and 2 ,two more times (three cycles).
4. Turn 'on' the key for 30 seconds.
The car should run if the above procedure is done properly.
Shirl Dickey
Tried this, didn't work, still having the same problem.
Just finished the engine swap on Vette #2, all was going as planned until we fired it up. It starts for about two seconds then shuts the fuel off. When pulling the trouble codes we get DTC P1626 related to the theft deterrent system which cuts the fuel when the passwords sent through the serial cable do not match up. I understand that the possibilities are one of the following: Poor connection, Open Circuit, Grounded Circuit, and/or Shorted Voltage. We have tried most everything we can think of. We are just getting frustrated trying to come up with a resolution. Anyone experience this problem or know of any remedies or things to try next.
Thanks in Advance,
-Mike Tracy
Getting all of the electrical connectors back on the correct components is relatively easy. Are you sure that you have all of the GROUNDS on the engine?? There are THREE! G-105, G-106 and G-107
I07 is on the back of the drivers side cylinder head. Two black wires in asingle eyelet connection.
106 is on the pasengers side of the bloch above the starter. There are two wires on G106 The battery ground and a single wire that grounds the PCM , MAF plus some other stuff!!
105 is the same place 106 is but on the drivers side.
Just finished the engine swap on Vette #2, all was going as planned until we fired it up. It starts for about two seconds then shuts the fuel off. When pulling the trouble codes we get DTC P1626 related to the theft deterrent system which cuts the fuel when the passwords sent through the serial cable do not match up. I understand that the possibilities are one of the following: Poor connection, Open Circuit, Grounded Circuit, and/or Shorted Voltage. We have tried most everything we can think of. We are just getting frustrated trying to come up with a resolution. Anyone experience this problem or know of any remedies or things to try next.
Thanks in Advance,
-Mike Tracy
Did you swap PCMs by chance?
If those there in lies the problem and the Vats being enabled.
Finally the car has started!!!! We had to swap out the BSM then complete the 30 min reset process. It kicked over on the first try once complete and it sounds sweet! Tomorrow we will have to tackle the ABS and Active Handling codes, but it's just good to know it running and we don't have to troubleshoot that area any longer. Thank you all again for your help, you guys are very helpful.
-Mike Tracy