some jackass backed into my parked car scrathing and denting my front bumper cover when getting the cover replaced the body shop is having problems matching magnetic red they cut a piece of the original bumper cover and sent to the lab the lab came up with a formula but after painting the cover and the hood and the top of the fenders the color and shine was not right the problem they said was that gm did not the color and decided to tint the clear coat since the paint was already made and that all the paint manufactor are having problems matching including PPG , Dupont, etc. Did anyone run into this problem or hear of this??? P.S. the body shop is a corvette specialist that only does vette restoration, mechanical, body work with a great rep

 

hmmm..if they use a Dupont camera they should be able to match...

 

i guess you'll just have to have them repaint the whole car. cant drive around with the paint not matching. Let the other cars insurance pay for it.

 

It doesnt make since that they can't match the paint. It is a technical job. The paint code is on the glove box sticker and then it is just slight tweaking of the mix to find that perfect match along with application techniques.

 

its not really that easy. more variables.

i went through the same thing trying to paint match yellow. i kept hearing all the "tint" coat stuff. but the key was to paint a white basecoat before the topcoat. this makes a HUGE difference in color.

the shop really should be blending all the surrounding panels?? its not going to be a 100% color match, which is why they blend.

 

Sikkens sent out their top tech and made a bunch of samples and matched it to the original paint sampled a damaged fender from a different C5 and it matched the paint tech kept the sample fender for future matching they are repainting the hood, front bumper cover and the top of the fenders I will have the car back next week and I will share the results

 

Something sounds very odd here? Sikkens is a good company, but matching mag red is no mystery nor is it a rare color?

First of all, it's called a three stage paint. Same as pearl colors, etc. Mag Red is nothing more than the old school candy apple red application except the base color is different. ANY painter worth his salt KNOWS that!

PPG makes exactly the right paint which is a copper colored base coat that also contains the flake. It's covered by a clear coat contain 10% red tint (at the factory they stop there - if you sand your car the paper will have a red tint in the dust). After market jobs will apply an additional layer of clear coat which is all clear. That way they can color sand it to match orange peel texture and it provides xtra UV protection.

Do not let this jack *** shoot a one color match up mickey mouse job. It won't have the debth and luminessence of original. This whole thing is wrong. Properly they will shoot the base color (copper) and with skill start applying the red tint over it until they match exactly the rest of the car. Any fool who has been in the business all day and likes it just fine, knows how to shoot a candy color.

Suggest you contact your local automotive paint supply store and ask them to recommend someone who's experienced and factory trained with a tri-color (base, tint clear, clear). They know who the pro's are.

Again don't let this idiot try and match your paint job with a one color shoot. It will look like crap. There is a reason these paint jobs cost an add'l $800 from the factory and the way it refracts light requires the layering of colors/tint. Any good painter knows from the paint code in your glove box what paint(s) to buy and from whom (recommend PPG).

It's really not all that hi-tech, but it is more than an Schieb enamel job, some painters just don't progresss far into their trade.




PS. You don't "match" this paint. You blend the red tinted clear coat until you match. Trying to "match" your color is a red (excuse the pun) flag.

 

Yes the yellow is also an extra $800 from the factory and it's a tri-coat. They shoot the new part 100% with the base color (in your case white) then start layering with a very lightly tinted clear coat. Once they have the color darn close to the adjoining parts, they will let some of the tinted clear lightly spray onto the adjacent pieces (not the base color - only tint). That's how & when they blend to the rest of the car. Lastly they will cover the new piece and the adjoining pieces they just blended to with clear (no tint).

Viola, you're on the road again and lookin for trouble!

There is another reason why all our parts don't exactly match and that is as you progress around the car it's made from different materials. Front & rear bumpers are different than side panels, etc. Good idea with Mag Red to look at your car stock so your realistic about how the tone and depth match.

 

the process they used was the base coat then they applied the red that is translucent until the number of coats of red to achieve a match : the sample had base coat then 1 coat of red upto 6 coats : 2 top coats was slightly off and 3 coats was too dark so they did 2.5 coats and that was a good match : just for information sake I counted 23 vettes they were working on from all over the country including a 2004 magnetic2 vet

 

these colores they use are hard to match you have to blend into surronding pannels .

 

Sounds like you got 'er done.

 

picked up the car today looks great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! many thanks to county corvette and sikkens they nailed it

 

Thanks for the positive remarks.
We do many of the tri coats and sometimes they are difficult. It is not cut and dry due to variations from the factory.
In addition to the color match, the texture match is crucial and Brian our painter is the best I have ever seen. One of the posts above suggests wet sanding to match texture. That is an amatuer technique. A "good" painter will match the texture as we did during the application process requiring only reassembly which fully replicates the factory procedure. We feel the repair is 100% undetectable which far exceeds insurance company standards.
You were a great customer to work with and we appreciate your patience. Educated customers like yourself are the best to work with.

You got one thing wrong though, You missed some cars, we had 42 here for repair and another Mag red convertible just in from Florida that was badly damaged.
My best,
Jim Jordan
President
County Corvette