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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 11:25 AM
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Please don't shoot me for asking the same question that I am sure has been posted here about 1 million times. But after multiple searches I still cannot find the answer that I am looking for.

It's time to change the plugs on wires on my mainly stock 2000 coupe.

I have found tons of posts on plugs. Most of which only serve to confuse the situation. I am either going to buy the TR55s or the Nology silver core. Feel free to advise me otherwise. :-)

What I can't find is good advice on wires.

I do plan on doing other upgrades this winter. (not sure what) So I want something that will give me the best performance.

I would love to hear comments and recommendations as to which plugs and wires I should or shouldn't buy.

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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 03:03 PM
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that's a good choice.
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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 02:19 AM
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Yes! Let's here some suggestions on the wires!

What are you running on your's and do you like 'em?

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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 02:42 AM
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i have the taylor thundervolt 10.5mm. they seem to be working great. along with the ngk tr55 gapped at .50. i also run the msd coil packs and i hope to be making the best of my ignition system.
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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 10:57 AM
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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by triblk6spd
i have the taylor thundervolt 10.5mm. they seem to be working great. along with the ngk tr55 gapped at .50. i also run the msd coil packs and i hope to be making the best of my ignition system.
Other than the coil packs, this is the same combination that I have in mine. Ran immediately better after the install. I found that one of my stock wires was nearly pulled out of the boot right at the heat protector. If your stock wires have been off and on more than once, chances are they are damaged as well....they are pretty fragile.
Wait till you see the size of those thunder wires. Great product and seem to be priced reasonably.........
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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 04:22 PM
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Got some wires off LGM which work great after putting on MSD JUNK call LGM.
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Got some wires off LGM which work great after putting on MSD JUNK call LGM.

Sorry! Brain dead- LGM? Where do I look at these bad boys in order to make my informed decision?

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Originally Posted by blktie8
Same here. The Callaway wires are also an excellent piece.
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Originally Posted by blktie8
I put magnecor wires on my 02. I liked them because you can keep the stock heatshields.
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NGK-TR55 Plugs and MSD 8.5mm wires is what I recommend for an all motor setup. If you have a power adder, like a little bit of nitrous or a blower car, then you will need to run a little colder plug like the NGK-TR6's.

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Originally Posted by madmatt9471
Sorry! Brain dead- LGM? Where do I look at these bad boys in order to make my informed decision?

Thanks,Matt
http://www.lgmotorsports.com/catalog/index.php
Month old with heat shield has stock wires for 55,000 miles no problem.

They ruined 5 track days before I figured it out. They snap on kike crap so you don't get a definative click and know they will stay. JUNK! Then track to get them on at a track event without sending you gloves and hands up in smoke.
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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 10:10 PM
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As I and many other forum members have posted before, wires regardless of type color or hype on the box, will not provide any performance gain over what a properly performing stock OEM wire will provide you. PERIOD!. If your stock OEM wires are in good shape, there going to give you everything the coil will provide. If your wires are defective and are causing your engine to misfire, adding new wires will only allow your engine to run as good as it did with stock factory wires.

You can check your OEM wires and most aftermarket wires several ways to see if they are good:

Visual check- Look for cuts, tears, burns holes and any other defects in the boots and outer jackets.
Also inspect the electrical contacts inside each boot. Look for corrosion and or damaged (deformation) contacts. They should fit tight on the coil and plug connections.

You should also use an OHM Meter to make sure that the wires are good. There are TWO types of wires that you will typically run across. The first is cored with a carbon impregnated plastic core and the other (the preferred one for performance use) is a wire wound spiral core. The carbon suppressive core wires are around 1000=2000 ohms per foot of wire. The inductive spiral wound wires are around 200-800 ohms. Some are even less!.. Your OEM GM wires should be 250-750 ohms and typically measure 300 ohms if there good. Careless spark plug wire removal (ripping the wires off the plugs by yanking them off by the wires) will destroy them in short order. If your OEM spiral wound wires measure more than spec, most bad wires will measure some where in the 20,000-30,000 ohm range ( I have seen them in the meg ohm range), there toast!

That said, if your going to purchase some aftermarket wires, look for QUALITY vise hype. Some wire jackets are durable and heat resistant (not proof) and the boots seal tight on the coil towers and plug insulators. The metal connections should also fit with a good tight fit and most are made of a corrosion resistant metal.

I used MAGNACORES like "blktie8",dwjz06,LoneStarFRC, and 02vert and like them a lot. They are quality wires! The GM red high performance wires are probably your best bet for the buck!!! They work VERY WELL and are quality wires. The MAGNACORE wires measure higher resistance than most stock wires do but preform flawlessly. There going on 4 years old and are good as new.

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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by blktie8
Have them on my 2004 TT Vette
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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Curlee
As I and many other forum members have posted before, wires regardless of type color or hype on the box, will not provide any performance gain over what a properly performing stock OEM wire will provide you. PERIOD!. If your stock OEM wires are in good shape, there going to give you everything the coil will provide. If your wires are defective and are causing your engine to misfire, adding new wires will only allow your engine to run as good as it did with stock factory wires.

You can check your OEM wires and most aftermarket wires several ways to see if they are good:

Visual check- Look for cuts, tears, burns holes and any other defects in the boots and outer jackets.
Also inspect the electrical contacts inside each boot. Look for corrosion and or damaged (deformation) contacts. They should fit tight on the coil and plug connections.

You should also use an OHM Meter to make sure that the wires are good. There are TWO types of wires that you will typically run across. The first is cored with a carbon impregnated plastic core and the other (the preferred one for performance use) is a wire wound spiral core. The carbon suppressive core wires are around 1000=2000 ohms per foot of wire. The inductive spiral wound wires are around 200-800 ohms. Some are even less!.. Your OEM GM wires should be 250-750 ohms and typically measure 300 ohms if there good. Careless spark plug wire removal (ripping the wires off the plugs by yanking them off by the wires) will destroy them in short order. If your OEM spiral wound wires measure more than spec, most bad wires will measure some where in the 20,000-30,000 ohm range ( I have seen them in the meg ohm range), there toast!

That said, if your going to purchase some aftermarket wires, look for QUALITY vise hype. Some wire jackets are durable and heat resistant (not proof) and the boots seal tight on the coil towers and plug insulators. The metal connections should also fit with a good tight fit and most are made of a corrosion resistant metal.

I used MAGNACORES like "blktie8",dwjz06,LoneStarFRC, and 02vert and like them a lot. They are quality wires! The GM red high performance wires are probably your best bet for the buck!!! They work VERY WELL and are quality wires. The MAGNACORE wires measure higher resistance than most stock wires do but preform flawlessly. There going on 4 years old and are good as new.

BC
I agree with you Bill.
One thing that Magnecore points out in one of their write-ups somewhere (can't remember where I saw it), is the fact that just measuring the "static" resistance of a wire with an ohmeter, while helpful in finding opens and/or direct shorts, is not the "be-all" and "end-all" in determining what is a good quality wire. They point out, and I agree, that wires (any wires) react differently when 40 or 50K worth of voltage is put through them. The point is, I think too many folks place too much emphasis on "ohms per foot" and many of the various manufacturers are there to take advantage of the marketing hype surrounding this. The type of construction, ie spiral wound wire conductor, conductive carbon impregnated conductors, etc may very well have different parameters when it comes to what is "good" and what is "bad" in terms of "ohms per foot" since they are dealing with such high voltages. Again, good info Bill!
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Originally Posted by DaWorm111
NGK-TR55 Plugs and MSD 8.5mm wires is what I recommend for an all motor setup.

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That's what I use. Get those and be done with it. Don't lose too much sleep over this stuff.
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MOROSO I have had a set on for four years with no problems.
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I Just Installed G.m Perfomance Wires On My Car And They Fit Great Look Great And Run Great!!!!!!
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