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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 07:49 PM
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Can anyone give me a link or the company that produces the lower bar that connects to the front of the seat? I got the upper bar in the mail, found the side hooks but cant find that bottom bar even though I know ive seen it.


Also if anyone is familiar with the R&D harness bar for the vert what am I look at as far as an install?
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http://hardbarusa.com/page_options.htm

Is this what you're looking for on the bottom of the page?
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To be honest im not sure


ill draw a pic if that will help

Top of car

+ + Harness bar behind seats


+ + Stock cross lap mounting point


= Seat bolts/floor of car mounting point


Im looking for the Seat bolts/floor of car mounting point piece
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 11:50 PM
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Are you looking for the bar to mount the sub strap? From a R-D Racing Harness bar system?

If so, that sub mount is small straight bar that mounts in the front of the seat. If you pull the plastic covers off the front seat mounts. You will see a hole about 2" up off the floor. The bar mounted with supplied bolts through those holes. You could fab up your own mount quite easily.
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Are you looking for the bar to mount the sub strap? From a R-D Racing Harness bar system?

If so, that sub mount is small straight bar that mounts in the front of the seat. If you pull the plastic covers off the front seat mounts. You will see a hole about 2" up off the floor. The bar mounted with supplied bolts through those holes. You could fab up your own mount quite easily.
Unless you are installing a 5 point harness for show purposes only you do not want your sub strap mounted in front of the seat. The purpose of the sub strap is to keep the lap belt in place and prevent it from riding up on your body. To do this it has to pull in the exact opposite direction of the shoulder harnesses. Pulling over the front of the seat misdirects the vector and it actually works to pull the lap belt away from your body. The proper place for the sub belt to be mounted is under the seat with the strap coming up through the seat to pull down on the lap belt. Since this puts a nice hole in the seat cushion another way to accomplish this is to have a sub strap you sit on. Get the Hardbar setup or the Brey Krause set up. Improper placement of the sub strap can result in the lap belt not fitting across your pelvis correctly and in the case of an incident your body would slide down and under the lap belt. If you do not want sub straps that come up through the seat or that you sit on then don't use any at all.
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Good point Bill! I should have mentioned that.

I was just answering his question on the R-D front sub belt mount. It was really intended for autox, not track.

I have the R-D Racing harness bar but use a 6-point setup with the sub strap setup to sit on. So that it does as you describe.
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Thanks guys, I might just go with a 4 pt then untill I finish the rest of my engine mods and throw in some proper racing seats
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If you go with the Brey-Krause harness mounts. They mount to the side of the seat where the stock latch goes and on the floor where the stock retractor is. The mounts are made for clip style connectors.

The price of the parts is $139 or some such. But then you can go 6-point and the sub and lap belts clip on for the days you need them. Then remove for days you don't.

I'm running a Corbeau race seat for track with the R-D harness bar setup. It works. It isn't a rollbar but for a street car is very workable. If you need to look at the bar installed just PM me. Apparently we're both in Raleigh.
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Ya I would love to see one installed! Right now im in Greenville at ECU but my parents live in Raleigh and Im back there all the time. Im guessing that the R&D bar installs with screws or welds?
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Ya I would love to see one installed! Right now im in Greenville at ECU but my parents live in Raleigh and Im back there all the time. Im guessing that the R&D bar installs with screws or welds?

Here is my install of the BK mounts so you can see.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...ar&forum_id=23
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Ya I would love to see one installed! Right now im in Greenville at ECU but my parents live in Raleigh and Im back there all the time. Im guessing that the R&D bar installs with screws or welds?
No, no, no. It bolts in to the car without hurting anything. I have a PDF file that has the instructions. The install is easy (at least in a coupe/frc). As long as you have all the bolts that came with the bar. It mounts to the B-pillar where the shoulder belt mounts. You remove the shoulder belt, install the bar mounting bracets then attach the shoulder belt. Then you bolt the bar into its brackets. Then run the down bar from the bracket to the outside bolt at the rear of the seat. That's it. Installed.

Don't use it as a 4-point. The harder you pull on the upper harness the more the lap belt rides up into your stomach. You have a hard impact and that lap belt just became your worse enemy.

Send me a PM or email when you're going to be back in town and bring the parts with you. I'll show you how to install it.
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